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Old June 28th 07, 03:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kyle Boatright
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"john smith" wrote in message
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"Marco Leon" wrote in message
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The 496 is now down to $2,395 for many stores. Since the vendors need an
OK from Garmin to do this, it may mean a new one on the horizon...
Anyone know more info?


Kyle Boatright wrote:
There has been a persistent rumor of a 596 in the works. Other than a
larger screen with a vertical orientation, I can't imagine what upgrades
are possible.

I'm still holding out for drag and drop weather control where you put a
cursor over the weather that is in your way and then do a mouse drag to
move the weather clear of your flight path. ;-)


That works well until the 15 guys that are flying where you moved the
weather to move it back to your flight path.


They will have the 696 in another year. With it, you can just highlight
those 15 other guys and put 'em in pause mode...

KB


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Old June 28th 07, 02:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon
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"john smith" wrote in message
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That works well until the 15 guys that are flying where you moved the
weather to move it back to your flight path.


Yeah but those 15 guys have to go out and buy the 596 to get that
capability. Brilliance. Hey Kyle, do you work for Garmin's marketing
department??

Marco


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Old June 29th 07, 12:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kyle Boatright
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"Marco Leon" wrote in message
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"john smith" wrote in message
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That works well until the 15 guys that are flying where you moved the
weather to move it back to your flight path.


Yeah but those 15 guys have to go out and buy the 596 to get that
capability. Brilliance. Hey Kyle, do you work for Garmin's marketing
department??

Marco


Man, I hope my engineer buddies don't see your post. They would never let
me live it down...

KB






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Old June 29th 07, 04:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Marco Leon" wrote in message
Yeah but those 15 guys have to go out and buy the 596 to get that
capability. Brilliance. Hey Kyle, do you work for Garmin's marketing
department??


Man, I hope my engineer buddies don't see your post. They would never let
me live it down...


If you think about it, that capability would come out of requirements
exercises and therefore it's a system engineering function. So the
"marketing department" was incorrectly used in my question.

Marco


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Old June 28th 07, 05:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
"Marco Leon" wrote in message
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snip

Marco



snip

I'm still holding out for drag and drop weather control where you put a
cursor over the weather that is in your way and then do a mouse drag to move
the weather clear of your flight path. ;-)

KB



It took me a second to understand this comment. That is great and what a
nice feature that would be.
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C-172F 180HP
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Old June 28th 07, 04:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
texasflyer
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Garmin needs to drop their prices on much more than just a measly $400
off their top end model.

They need to quit being such greedy bastages and come out with a nice
basic, easy to use, portable aviation GPS with large color "portrait"
screen, with WAAS, terrain/obstacle data, airport data, built-in
flight log and E6B calculator features, "land mode", etc, etc, etc,
and sell it for under $800 with all the common accessories such as
cables, yoke mounts, etc, all included in the package price.

Oh wait... I've just described the Lowrance 2000C !!!!!!


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Old June 28th 07, 09:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jonathan Goodish
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In article om,
texasflyer wrote:
Garmin needs to drop their prices on much more than just a measly $400
off their top end model.

They need to quit being such greedy bastages and come out with a nice
basic, easy to use, portable aviation GPS with large color "portrait"
screen, with WAAS, terrain/obstacle data, airport data, built-in
flight log and E6B calculator features, "land mode", etc, etc, etc,
and sell it for under $800 with all the common accessories such as
cables, yoke mounts, etc, all included in the package price.

Oh wait... I've just described the Lowrance 2000C !!!!!!


Except that, oops, the Lowrance 2000c doesn't have XM weather. Deal
killer for me and many others.

There are many other advantages of the Garmin hand-helds over the
Lowrance units, not the least of which is a higher-resolution display
(though it is smaller), road auto-routing, display of traffic data (from
either TIS or XRX), etc.



JKG
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Old June 28th 07, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
texasflyer
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XM Weather, auto-routing for ground travelers, air traffic data from
TIS, etc, all qualify as 'advanced' features, not 'basic' features for
the typical VFR pilot, and might very well justify a premium price if
the buyer is willing to pay such a large amount extra for them. But
is that really worth almost three and a half times the price? ($2.4K
for the 496 vs $700 current going price for the 2000C). Certainly not
to me. My opinion is that Garmin should retail the 296 at about $800,
the 396 at maybe $1300 and the 496 at maybe $1900K and the monochrome
196 at $500. That's about what they're really worth. I don't like
either of the little 96 and 96C units. I thought the little GPS Pilot
III was a much better "entry-level" aviation GPS. They should've just
upgraded it's processor/memory/software/etc and kept the form-factor
of the "III" instead.



On Jun 28, 3:05 pm, Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article om,

texasflyer wrote:
Garmin needs to drop their prices on much more than just a measly $400
off their top end model.


They need to quit being such greedy bastages and come out with a nice
basic, easy to use, portable aviation GPS with large color "portrait"
screen, with WAAS, terrain/obstacle data, airport data, built-in
flight log and E6B calculator features, "land mode", etc, etc, etc,
and sell it for under $800 with all the common accessories such as
cables, yoke mounts, etc, all included in the package price.


Oh wait... I've just described the Lowrance 2000C !!!!!!


Except that, oops, the Lowrance 2000c doesn't have XM weather. Deal
killer for me and many others.

There are many other advantages of the Garmin hand-helds over the
Lowrance units, not the least of which is a higher-resolution display
(though it is smaller), road auto-routing, display of traffic data (from
either TIS or XRX), etc.

JKG



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Old June 29th 07, 12:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke
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"texasflyer" wrote:

XM Weather, auto-routing for ground travelers, air traffic data from
TIS, etc, all qualify as 'advanced' features, not 'basic' features for
the typical VFR pilot, and might very well justify a premium price if
the buyer is willing to pay such a large amount extra for them. But
is that really worth almost three and a half times the price?


Obviously it is, since the thing sold like hotcakes -- it took weeks for me to
get mine.

Garmin was probably kicking themselves for not pricing it higher initially.



That's about what they're really worth.


Maybe to you; that's why you didn't buy. Plenty of people felt differently.

Goods don't have intrinsic worth on some absolute scale. They are "worth"
what the market will pay.


--
Dan
T-182T at BFM


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Old June 29th 07, 08:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Jonathan,

Except that, oops, the Lowrance 2000c doesn't have XM weather.


What weather? (Thomas, Hamburg, Germany)

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