playing nice with Air Force One

Dan.. I saw the TFR... utterly ridicules for so much airspace.
But it gives a good chance to mow that grass runway and Hampton..
I see the same cubs are still there that I flew back in '82.
I need to get home more often.

BT

"Cubdriver" usenet AT danford DOT net wrote in message
...

I've been grounded by a mighty TFR that began at 3pm yesterday.
Evidently Bush 43 is having a weekend at Bush 41's house in
Kennebunkport. So I took my binocs and my radio down to the dock and
waited for the various Ones to do their thing.

First there was a helo sweep of Great Bay, I think by the Coast Guard
because there was a red-orange flash on the aircraft.

Then a grimy gray airliner took off on 34, the usual runway because it
leads away from Portsmouth. Shortly thereafter a voice on the radio
says "We are conducting a sweep of the runway at this time." Gotta
love it: at this time! What were they looking for, debris from the
airliner's tires.

Then Air Force One called in on a 12 mile base leg. The air was a bit
misty so I didn't see it until final. What a huge mother! You don't
often see 747s at Pease International Tradeport, formerly Pease Air
Force Base.

But here's the cute thing: the controllers at Pease (or Portsmouth, as
they generally refer to themselves these days) are always impressed by
their military connection, and they invariably say: "Check wheels
down" to the incoming pilot, even if it's a Cessna 172. But not to Air
Force One! It was the prevailing wind and "Cleared to land." So even
an air traffic controller can be awed by the trappings of power.

Evidently it doesn't take a president long to inspect Pease
International Tradeport! About fifteen minutes after Air Force One
landed, Marine One called ready for takeoff. But by that time the deer
flies were getting to me, and I was indoors.

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
forthcoming from HarperCollins www.flyingtigersbook.com

On Jun 29, 1:58 pm, Dave S wrote:

At Ellington here in Houston, it's a joint tower (busiest by USAF
standards allegedly). They almost always say it.. wether its civil
traffic or military.

Dave- Hide quoted text -


Albuquerque is a joint tower, and every time I appraoched with the
landing lights off they asked me to check the gear.

Hawkeye wrote:
..the helo over a loudspeaker told them to get inside
or they would be shot..

I have a problem with this. They were breaking no laws. The SS can come
and check if they want, but there is a constituional right to peaceably
assemble. And this is PRIVATE property no less.

Hawkeye writes:

When Bush 43 paid a visit here the Coast Guard had a Dolphin flying
sniper support for the motorcade. They made several passes over my
house since I live close to the airport (KATW). The sniper was hanging
out the door with his big rifle. During the motorcade through town,
several workers at a local paper company were standing on the roof of
their building...the helo over a loudspeaker told them to get inside
or they would be shot...the Secret Service entered the building within
seconds of the warning to investigate. There were some scared and
embarrassed workers.

What legal basis does the Secret Service or anyone have to shoot someone
watching from a rooftop?

National Security!

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Hawkeye writes:

When Bush 43 paid a visit here the Coast Guard had a Dolphin flying
sniper support for the motorcade. They made several passes over my
house since I live close to the airport (KATW). The sniper was hanging
out the door with his big rifle. During the motorcade through town,
several workers at a local paper company were standing on the roof of
their building...the helo over a loudspeaker told them to get inside
or they would be shot...the Secret Service entered the building within
seconds of the warning to investigate. There were some scared and
embarrassed workers.

What legal basis does the Secret Service or anyone have to shoot someone
watching from a rooftop?



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Mike Schumann writes:

National Security!

Cite the actual law that allows people on rooftops to be shot.

No on was hurt, but the T-34 was only a week out of a complete
restoration.

It's even worse when it's a P-51 Mustang. Saw it happen at Davenport,
Iowa a few years ago.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

.the helo over a loudspeaker told them to get inside

or they would be shot..

I have a problem with this. They were breaking no laws. The SS can come
and check if they want, but there is a constituional right to peaceably
assemble. And this is PRIVATE property no less.

I doubt they used those exact words.

The secret service CAN be brusque (I had a run-in on the ramp with
them when John Edwards -- a nuthin' nobody -- brought a TFR down on
Des Moines, during the last election, and the SS guys were quite
firm), but they aren't stupid. They're not about to shout "Get in the
building or we'll shoot you!"
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In a previous article, Jay Honeck said:
The secret service CAN be brusque (I had a run-in on the ramp with
them when John Edwards -- a nuthin' nobody -- brought a TFR down on
Des Moines, during the last election, and the SS guys were quite
firm), but they aren't stupid. They're not about to shout "Get in the
building or we'll shoot you!"

During the 1999 election season, before Rudy Gulliani withdrew from the
senate race, I taxied in between Hillary and Rudy's planes at Prior
Aviation in Buffalo. No TFR, no threats. A phalanx of black SUVs were
meeting Hillary's Gulfstream (which had "UNITED STATES" painted on it in
large letters), but other than that it was just another arrival.


--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mike Schumann writes:

National Security!

Cite the actual law that allows people on rooftops to be shot.

You want to know, YOU look it up and tell us.

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