Cessna Greenlights LSA

On Jul 10, 4:31 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Eric Bartsch wrote:
On Jul 10, 5:55 pm, Jay Beckman wrote:
On Jul 10, 2:23 pm, Dallas wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:00:13 -0700, Jay Beckman wrote:
Just got an AvWeb flash announcing same...
Are you getting your loan papers together?
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Dallas
Not right this minute, but I'm hoping one or two migrate to a FBO here
in the PHX area. I'd love to try it out!

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZwww.pbase.com/flyingphotog

This should have a pretty significant impact on the cost of people
getting a license. If a brand new 172 goes for $110 to $130/hr then
one of the Cessna LSAs should be able to be rented for maybe $70/hr
with the lower fuel burn, cheaper plane, and lower insurance (2 seats
vs. 4). My guess is that the biggest impact of the new LSA airplanes &
license will be the fact that it provides a new generation of 2 seat
training aircraft that can be more economically used for training, and
that most of the training done in them will actually be people getting
their private rating vs a light sport rating. This will wind up being
the new generation of 152s or Tomahawks.

Unfortunately for Cessna, that plane already exists.
It's called the Evektor SportStar. Oh wait, it's
made in the Chez republic...

http://www.evektoramerica.com/




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I sat in one at the AOPA clambake last fall at Palm Springs. It's
seems really well built, comfy, great vis and can be very well
equipped. The dealer on hand flew this particular plane from Texas.
IIRC, the gentleman who climbed in and taxied it out for the Parade Of
Planes back to the airport was (putting it nicely) "a couple of
biscuits over average" and he didn't appear to be cramped or
uncomfortable at all.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ
www.pbase.com/flyingphotog

"Jim Stewart" wrote

Unfortunately for Cessna, that plane already exists.
It's called the Evektor SportStar. Oh wait, it's
made in the Chez republic...

Now, if they would put something in it other than a Rotax.

I'll bet Cessna doesn't use a Rotax! g
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Jim in NC

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:31:56 -0700, Jim Stewart wrote:

Unfortunately for Cessna, that plane already exists.
It's called the Evektor SportStar. Oh wait, it's
made in the Chez republic...

Do they ferry those things across the Atlantic?


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Dallas

("Jim Stewart" wrote)
Unfortunately for Cessna, that plane already exists.
It's called the Evektor SportStar. Oh wait, it's
made in the Chez republic...


Oh wait, this one is made in the U.S. of A.

http://www.ionaircraft.com/update.html
I'm heading over to ION World Headquarters in 10 minutes.

Flight tests begin very, very soon.

Very ....soon.

Very.

Soon.

This plane will beat Cessna's LSA in:

1... Price
2... Speed
3... Cool factor :-)
4... Removable wings
5... VISIBILITY!
6... Cool factor, again :-)

I want to see the build times for ION #2 and ION #3.

Steve WILL NOT put a number out there yet. He disapproves of companies
promising things, then not delivering.

Personally, I think with proper support from ION World Headquarters, build
time will be...

(I'd better let Steve post that number - when he's sure!)


Paul-Mont
NOT speaking for ION management
http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16...770718,00.html
What? I didn't say anything. It's a story about airports, that's all. g

Jim,

Unfortunately for Cessna, that plane already exists.
It's called the Evektor SportStar.


Yes, but it doesn't carry the Cessna brand name.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On 2007-07-10 15:38:13 -0700, Eric Bartsch said:



This should have a pretty significant impact on the cost of people
getting a license. If a brand new 172 goes for $110 to $130/hr then
one of the Cessna LSAs should be able to be rented for maybe $70/hr
with the lower fuel burn, cheaper plane, and lower insurance (2 seats
vs. 4).

You hit it right on the head. That is how much we will rent it for at
PAVCO. We will get at least one, maybe two. They will be a great
replacement for our 152s, which are getting a little long in the tooth.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell wrote:
On 2007-07-10 15:38:13 -0700, Eric Bartsch said:



This should have a pretty significant impact on the cost of people
getting a license. If a brand new 172 goes for $110 to $130/hr then
one of the Cessna LSAs should be able to be rented for maybe $70/hr
with the lower fuel burn, cheaper plane, and lower insurance (2 seats
vs. 4).

You hit it right on the head. That is how much we will rent it for at
PAVCO. We will get at least one, maybe two. They will be a great
replacement for our 152s, which are getting a little long in the
tooth.

Most of the guys renting LSA aircraft so far have them set at ~$100.00 and
some more. The ones I've looked at are all small operation though and they
might not have the volume to support them at lower rates.

C,

You hit it right on the head. That is how much we will rent it for at
PAVCO.


You know what the Cessna LSA will cost? Otherwise, how would you arrive
at a rental price?

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On 2007-07-10 14:55:36 -0700, Jay Beckman said:

On Jul 10, 2:23 pm, Dallas wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:00:13 -0700, Jay Beckman wrote:
Just got an AvWeb flash announcing same...

Are you getting your loan papers together?

--
Dallas

Not right this minute, but I'm hoping one or two migrate to a FBO here
in the PHX area. I'd love to try it out!

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ
www.pbase.com/flyingphotog

Glendale Aviation will probably be allowed to buy one this year and
they will probably be allowed to sell one to a customer this year. The
customer will have to go to Oshkosh with (what's his name, John?) with
a $10,000 deposit one week before the air show. You will probably camp
out, because all the hotel rooms are filled. Delivery will be in 2008
or 2010 or whenever.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Jul 10, 2:00 pm, Jay Beckman wrote:
Just got an AvWeb flash announcing same...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZwww.pbase.com/flyingphotog

Thats really good news. I've not seen much about this plane, but a
"C-153" so to speak sounds like a good idea. In these days of high gas
prices, going smaller is the way to go. Actually I don't know what
they're going to call it, but I hope they go with C-153. Isn't that
basically what is it? An lighter (all though completely redesigned)
152?

Now if they'll only release details on the NGP...