Garmin unveiling?

Ray Andraka wrote:
Some of the old Loran boxes had it, so why can't it be
done in a modern GPS that has everything else down to the color of your
shoelaces in it?

GNS480

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?

From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
496 lacks...

Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

There is hope. They have airways in the Mustang G1000 and ChartView
in the entire 2007 NAV III line and rumor has it the new software
(reportedly coming this month) for the rest of the NAV III line has
airways and chartview as well.

AFAIK you still need to carry the charts though.

On Jul 12, 3:55 pm, Peter Clark
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"

wrote:
On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?

From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
496 lacks...

Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

There is hope. They have airways in the Mustang G1000 and ChartView
in the entire 2007 NAV III line and rumor has it the new software
(reportedly coming this month) for the rest of the NAV III line has
airways and chartview as well.

Awesome!!

AFAIK you still need to carry the charts though.

Sure, but carrying and having to frequently reference are different
things.

-Robert

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

Excellent point, I had forgotten about airways. I have been flying
with a Garmin 295 for years, but I also have my own moving map
software running on a tablet PC which displays airways and
intersections.

In Garmin's defense, the airways take up a lot of memory, are slow to
draw/paint on the screen, and consume/clutter the display... and that
is on a 900MHz Pentium III tablet PC with a 10.4" screen. Airways
would be a tough trick on a smaller 3-4" portable GPS screen.

Nathan Young wrote:
In Garmin's defense, the airways take up a lot of memory

Feh. The FAA distributes the airway database in an extremely verbose text
format which is about 10 meg in raw format, but compresses down (with gzip)
to a little under a meg. The only data in the file which doesn't already
need to be stored anyway (i.e. fix coordinates) is a list of which fixes
make up each airway. There's 42k records in the file. If you used a
32-bit pointer for each fix, plus some per-airway information (I count 2240
airways), the whole thing fits into under 200k. This is nothing.

"Roy Smith" wrote:

In Garmin's defense, the airways take up a lot of memory

Feh. The FAA distributes the airway database in an extremely verbose text
format which is about 10 meg in raw format, but compresses down (with gzip)
to a little under a meg. The only data in the file which doesn't already
need to be stored anyway (i.e. fix coordinates) is a list of which fixes
make up each airway. There's 42k records in the file. If you used a
32-bit pointer for each fix, plus some per-airway information (I count 2240
airways), the whole thing fits into under 200k. This is nothing.

G-D usenet. There's always some smartass who actually knows what he's
talking about to come along and spoil the fun!

--
Dan

"Gut feeling"

Intestinologists concur that the human gut does not contain any
rational thoughts.

What the human gut *is* full of is moderately well
known.

On 2007-07-12 14:56:59 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" said:

On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?

From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
496 lacks...

Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

-Robert

They already had those in the MX20, which I think is being sold by Garmin now.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:31:55 -0700, C J Campbell
wrote:

They already had those in the MX20, which I think is being sold by Garmin now.

The GMX200. Nice unit, slightly larger screen and faster processor
than the MX20 they built it from.

C J Campbell wrote:
On 2007-07-12 14:56:59 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
said:
On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest
and greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?

From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little
features that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big
features that the 496 lacks...

Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

-Robert


Cessna also has it in the G1000 in the Mustang.

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C J Campbell wrote:
On 2007-07-12 14:56:59 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
said:
On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest
and greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?

From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little
features that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big
features that the 496 lacks...

Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

-Robert


Cessna also has it in the G1000 in the Mustang.

The G1000 had ChartView (coming "soon" to some installations) whcih has the
LOW-ENROUTE charts.