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Old July 13th 07, 02:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_2_]
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john smith wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:
Good idea. We've only started to play with settings in MS Flight Sim
X (the newest version), but I'll bet there's a way to do that.


So movie night this week will be the RIPON ARRIVAL challenge in the KIWI?



Does someone get to sit next to the KIWI and read the NOTAM to certain
pilots over a simulated radio? G
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Old July 13th 07, 02:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, Jay Honeck said:
Thus, we just returned from an hour's flight devoted entirely to
simulating the FISK arrival procedure into OSH. The flight from Iowa
City to Muscatine takes about 25 minutes, at 90 knots and 1800 feet
MSL -- pretty similar to the trip from Ripon to OSH.


Another thing you might want to practice is flying the plane at those
speeds and with that amount of precision when it's fully loaded with a
week's camping gear. I was surprised how much different the Lance feels
when it's fully loaded rather than just me and the wife and a weekend's
hotel luggage.


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looks at your code, keep it clean and sensible, and *not* play
any obscure Jedi mind-tricks. -- Anthony de Boer
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Old July 13th 07, 02:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Funny you should mention that, but last weekend I was in the scenic
pattern at Niagara Falls and there were two Cessnas there as well. To
make sure I didn't run them down or lose sight of them, I also had to slow
the Lance right down to 90 knots and I discovered 1 notch of flaps lowers
the nose enough to see planes at my altitude.


Yep, that flap setting seems to be perfect for sight seeing -- and
OSH.

Did you play with prop settings at all? I found it easier to maintain
90 knots with the prop full forward, but I don't like red-lining the
engine for that long. I eventually settled on 2300 RPM, which meant
very low MP, probably around 15 to 17 inches.

Dunno if that's "lugging" the engine, though. Prolly better to red-
line it...

It's funny -- we flew over the falls last year, but I never "did the
pattern". Quite frankly, I thought viewing them from above was cool
but kinda boring, after the thunder and grandeur of being practically
IN them, aboard the "Maid of the Mist".
--
Jay Honeck
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Old July 13th 07, 02:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, Jay Honeck said:
Did you play with prop settings at all? I found it easier to maintain
90 knots with the prop full forward, but I don't like red-lining the
engine for that long. I eventually settled on 2300 RPM, which meant
very low MP, probably around 15 to 17 inches.


I tend the leave the prop at 2300 all the time, because our club charges
by a 2400 rpm "tach hour". I don't think there is any harm in running at
a low MP.


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would need thought, planning and actual work to do justice to.
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Old July 13th 07, 02:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I want to play the controller that tells the pilot who forgot the NOTAM to
go back to New Holstein and GET IT! lol
Jim

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
news
john smith wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:
Good idea. We've only started to play with settings in MS Flight Sim
X (the newest version), but I'll bet there's a way to do that.


So movie night this week will be the RIPON ARRIVAL challenge in the

KIWI?


Does someone get to sit next to the KIWI and read the NOTAM to certain
pilots over a simulated radio? G



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Old July 13th 07, 05:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Thursday 0530. Left out of the driveway, down the gravel road to Greenhorn,
down Brunswick to CA20, up CA20 to I-80, 687 miles RON Eavenston WY.

Friday 0530 I-80 direct York NE 781 mi RON.

Saturday 0730 I-80 direct Iowa City IA 381 mi RON brats & beer.

Sunday 0730 I-80, I-88, I-39, US-151, US-41 direct Oshkosh 326 mi. Thence
US-41, SR-110, US-10, CR-K, Waupaca direct 47 mi RON, beer & brats.

IFR all the way (I Follow Roads).

Jim


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a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, with chocolate in one hand and wine in
the other, loudly proclaiming 'WOO HOO What a Ride!'"
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"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
I practiced last Sunday in unbearable 98 degree temps and off the scale
humidity levels....

Thank God the AC worked... lemme see if I still have it down...
Left out of the driveway, south on Co A, left on Hwy 73, merge with 21,
right on 41...
Yep got it!

Jim



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Old July 13th 07, 05:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 12, 11:25 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Every year some people decide to fly into the world's busiest airspace
with little or no pre-flight preparation. Last year (2006) was the


Jay,

Based on our experience flying to Oshkosh last year, I would like
to add two more items to your excellent suggestions of practicing
flying tight pattern, slow flights, spot landing, familiarizing with
the procedures etc.

1. If possible, have a co-pilot or at least a passenger and ask the
passenger to help with looking out for traffic.
2. Practice go around! Don't expect planes ahead of you will land on
the allotted space and/or quick to exit the runway.

Due to work schedule, we will not be able to attend Oshkosh this
year. I am looking forward to reading pireps especially about XM-
weather & EFB options. From what I have read, it does not look like
Lowrance will introduce XM-weather version at Oshkosh this year.
Just hope that Garmin will introduce a new unit with bigger screen
size and may even have approach plates!

With the price of solid state hard disks coming down to reasonable
level, I am checking out several products such as VistaNav, Flight
Cheetah FL190 etc. Wish that we could be at Oshkosh to examine and
buy them at a discount ;-). Last year, we bought several items at
the show (JPI EDM-700, Oxygen system, the Claws etc.) at discounted
prices. The money which we saved was more than enough to pay for the
trip avgas cost.

Hai Longworth

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Old July 13th 07, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:19:36 -0700, Longworth wrote:

With the price of solid state hard disks coming down to reasonable
level, I am checking out several products such as VistaNav, Flight Cheetah
FL190 etc.


I'm very eager to hear about these too, esp. the FL190 vs. Garmin. The
VistaNav seems to be priced a little too far up the scale for me.

- Andrew

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Old July 14th 07, 04:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote

I tend the leave the prop at 2300 all the time, because our club charges
by a 2400 rpm "tach hour". I don't think there is any harm in running at
a low MP.


Lugging the engine hammers the bottom end bearings, but I don't think I would
consider 15 - 17 a harmful "lugging" pressure.
--
Jim in NC

 




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