ATC failure in Memphis

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
Denny writes:

ATC failed due to commercial phone lines going down, so we need to
replace ATC ????

No, the argument would be along the lines of ATC being fragile and dangerous,
either because it needs more people/money, or because it is outdated and needs
to be replaced with Something New (depending on which ax you are grinding).

I can see us spending 10 billion dollars for a whole new ATC structure
- that still depends on Ma Bell's 1912 phone lines...

Ma Bell built telephone lines to be very robust indeed; its successors are not
so conscientious, unfortunately. In fact, Ma Bell went well beyond that (cf.
AUTOVON).

AUTOVON used ordinary phone lines usually, but not always, dedicated to
the military.

The lines used were, for the most part, routed around major cities to
avoid system destruction in a major attack.

Other than that, there wasn't much special about it.

--
Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Denny writes:

ATC failed due to commercial phone lines going down, so we need to
replace ATC ????

No, the argument would be along the lines of ATC being fragile and
dangerous, either because it needs more people/money, or because it is
outdated and needs to be replaced with Something New (depending on
which ax you are grinding).

You have no idea hwatsoever of which you speak.

Fjukwit


Bertie

Craig Welch writes:

Huh? Failures such as this happen ...

Sure, but you can spin failures many ways.

Sure, but you can spin failures many ways.

Anthony, look at yourself as an example.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Craig Welch writes:

Huh? Failures such as this happen ...

Sure, but you can spin failures many ways.


As we all can see. (not including you fjukkwit)

Bertie

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...



Mxsmanic wrote:
See

http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/09/25/memp...afu/index.html

Was it truly an accident? It sure happens at a convenient time for those who
want to fuel the argument that there's something wrong with ATC. However, the
incident could be used for both pro and con arguments, depending on how it is
spun, i.e., one could argue that "ATC lacks the resources it needs," or that
"ATC needs to be replaced by something new."

JA_MORAN writes:

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...

Back-up systems can only work if they exist.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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JA_MORAN writes:

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...

Back-up systems can only work if they exist.


TGhey do, idiot.


I've been in a complete ATC system failure (not in the US, BTW) and guess
what, everone landed, no problem


You're an idiot.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:
JA_MORAN writes:

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...

Back-up systems can only work if they exist.

I explained the backup issue in a previous response. The FAA
"Had" microwave backup until the unqualified idiots decided
they did not need it and went single threaded with outside
contractors(Telco).

Current FAA Management is clueless about technical issues
and redundancy because they have filled their ranks with
bean counters and minorities who are unqualified to meet
diversity edicts handed down by feminist man hater goon
squads in D.C.

Your "Vagina" management at work. Emotional and illogical
and vindictive. Hillary in 08? God help us all.

FredGarvinMaleProstitute wrote in
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Mxsmanic wrote:
JA_MORAN writes:

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...

Back-up systems can only work if they exist.

I explained the backup issue in a previous response. The FAA
"Had" microwave backup until the unqualified idiots decided
they did not need it and went single threaded with outside
contractors(Telco).

Current FAA Management is clueless about technical issues

Actually, it's you who are clueless about tech matters, but don't let me
stop you making an asshole out of yourself!

Not that anything could stop ya.

Bertie