How long can you reserve an N-number?

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:09:08 -0800, Richard Riley wrote:



An owner who goes that way should also list the engine as
experimental. A Cozy builder locally listed his airplane as a Jones
Runabout or some such, but listed the Lycoming 360 engine. The
assessor said the last plane they'd billed with that kind of engine
was a new Cessna 172, therefor the homebuilt was worth as much as the
Cessna - $250k.

That's a good tip. I would have never thought of the engine being a tax target.

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IO-540 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:41:02 -0800 (PST), quietguy
wrote:

On Nov 16, 2:59 pm, IO540 wrote:

Wasn't that fee to hold an "N" number one of the ones they are going
to raise up quite a bit with the new registration fees?

It was part of the FAA's reauthorization/restructuring proposal,
which got shot down by Congress this fall:

http://www.aopa.org/pilot/features/2007/feat0705.html

Look about two-thirds of the way through the AOPA article (from May
2007) and you'll see the proposals: $80 to register a 'special' N-
number (i.e., one not assigned at random) and $50 to renew it. Shot
down with all the rest -- but soaking us for 'vanity plates' is
clearly on their minds at the FAA. It's unclear from the AOPA's
wording but it looks as if the FAA wanted to hit us up for these fees
every year for existing aircraft as well as for reserved N-numbers.

Every year? that would be awful, and just put another nail in the
coffin for GA. The FAA is persistant, that's for sure. The B-crats
just can't get the thought from their mind that anyone who owns an
aircarft is rich, and is a prime target for taxes for them to waste on
many of their useless programs.

Well getting special N numbers is kind of like vanity plates for cars. It's
not like you really need them.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:31:57 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

IO-540 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:41:02 -0800 (PST), quietguy
wrote:


Well getting special N numbers is kind of like vanity plates for cars. It's
not like you really need them.


Well, in a homebuilt, yes you really do. Considering the size of some
homebuilts, putting a long N number on can be a challenge. And the FAA
issues long, non-descript N numbers. There are no short N numbers
left. The best that can be had is two numbers plus two letters, or 3
numbers and one letter, or 4 numbers and no letters. If someone is
building a plane that requires a 12" N numbers, due to it's cruise
speed, fitting a long number along the side can be tough, especially
if it interferes with a nice paint scheme. I'd like a short enough
number to fit on the rudder, but there are none available.

IO-540 wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:31:57 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

IO-540 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:41:02 -0800 (PST), quietguy
wrote:


Well getting special N numbers is kind of like vanity plates for
cars. It's not like you really need them.


Well, in a homebuilt, yes you really do. Considering the size of some
homebuilts, putting a long N number on can be a challenge. And the FAA
issues long, non-descript N numbers. There are no short N numbers
left. The best that can be had is two numbers plus two letters, or 3
numbers and one letter, or 4 numbers and no letters. If someone is
building a plane that requires a 12" N numbers, due to it's cruise
speed, fitting a long number along the side can be tough, especially
if it interferes with a nice paint scheme. I'd like a short enough
number to fit on the rudder, but there are none available.

I doubt a $80 fee is going to be the tipping point especially if you are
building an aircraft that that flys fast enough to require 12" letters.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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IO-540 wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:31:57 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"

Well, in a homebuilt, yes you really do. Considering the size of some
homebuilts, putting a long N number on can be a challenge. And the FAA
issues long, non-descript N numbers. There are no short N numbers
left. The best that can be had is two numbers plus two letters, or 3
numbers and one letter, or 4 numbers and no letters. If someone is
building a plane that requires a 12" N numbers, due to it's cruise
speed, fitting a long number along the side can be tough, especially
if it interferes with a nice paint scheme. I'd like a short enough
number to fit on the rudder, but there are none available.

I doubt a $80 fee is going to be the tipping point especially if you are
building an aircraft that that flys fast enough to require 12" letters.

In the near future I am going to refinish my fuselage. What are the current
N-number size requirements?

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
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In the near future I am going to refinish my fuselage. What are the
current N-number size requirements?

Depends on your fuselage.

Rich "Insufficient information, Mr. Spock" S.

"Rich S." wrote in message
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"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
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In the near future I am going to refinish my fuselage. What are the
current N-number size requirements?

Depends on your fuselage.

Rich "Insufficient information, Mr. Spock" S.

OK, I see RVs with 4 inch number and some with 14 inch numbers. There must
be a rule that state a "requirement." I am looking for the rule's
reference, or a paraphrase of the rule.

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
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"Rich S." wrote in message
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"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
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In the near future I am going to refinish my fuselage. What are the
current N-number size requirements?

Depends on your fuselage.

Rich "Insufficient information, Mr. Spock" S.

OK, I see RVs with 4 inch number and some with 14 inch numbers. There
must be a rule that state a "requirement." I am looking for the rule's
reference, or a paraphrase of the rule.

No need to reply. I found the answer.
http://www.aircraftcolor.com/ninfo.asp

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/

"Wayne Paul" wrote
No need to reply. I found the answer.
http://www.aircraftcolor.com/ninfo.asp

It should be added that planes arriving back home from an international
flight are required to have 12 inch numbers, too.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Wayne Paul" wrote
No need to reply. I found the answer.
http://www.aircraftcolor.com/ninfo.asp

It should be added that planes arriving back home from an international
flight are required to have 12 inch numbers, too.

Plus aircraft of a certain age, or which are built to resemble aircraft of a
certain age, if they put an "X" in their number, may have two inch numbers.
There are many chapters and verse which apply.

Rich "The rest of the story" S.