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Old November 20th 03, 09:10 AM
Keith Willshaw
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"robert arndt" wrote in message
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This concept is
way beyond anything the US has concieved for the as-of-yet
undetermined B-3.


If its undetermined one can hardly claim that another system is in
advance of it.

Keith


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Old November 21st 03, 10:49 AM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"robert arndt" wrote in message
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This concept is
way beyond anything the US has concieved for the as-of-yet
undetermined B-3.


If its undetermined one can hardly claim that another system is in
advance of it.

Keith


Respectfully Keith, B-3 concepts are already being investigated and
some of the design work already proposed. See my archived "B-3" posts
with links.
The German NiMet, however, is way beyond THOSE proposals because it is
a Metamorphic bomber concept. The future materials and systems
proposed for the NiMet include a type of cellular material that can
absorb radar as well as direct hits from enemy a/c guns and missiles
without damage to the craft. It would have the unique ability to
transform, reform, and deform at will. Also, its outer bio-like
structure would allow weapons to be imbedded at various points and
released by a complex internal light control system. The future
Luftwaffe pilot is expected to be wearing a gel-suit and "cocooned" in
the event of an emergency.
Since the IOC of the future craft (and the future B-3) is not expected
to be until the late 2030s, the technology proposed will take time to
develop. But as stated earlier, the German proposal is way beyond any
current B-3 concept.
As for Airbus conversion aircraft, that is possible NOW. A converted
A-series cargo carrier could air drop palletized cruise missiles or
munitions.
See EFW for conversion concepts.

Rob
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Old November 19th 03, 09:20 PM
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I get an image of someone throwing a Storm Shadow out the
back of an A400M.


During the Falklands War, the Argies put bombs aboard a transport and
rolled them out the back in an ineffectual attempt to bomb the QE2.
They didn't come near it, but they did send her scurrying back to
England. Or so a crewman on the boat told me.

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Old November 19th 03, 09:41 PM
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:20:50 -0500, Cub Driver wrote:

I get an image of someone throwing a Storm Shadow out the
back of an A400M.


During the Falklands War, the Argies put bombs aboard a transport and
rolled them out the back in an ineffectual attempt to bomb the QE2.
They didn't come near it, but they did send her scurrying back to
England. Or so a crewman on the boat told me.


I heard a variant of that story -- they were using a Hercules to
bomb British troop positions. The Argies were using dumb bombs, but
modern ordnance such as Storm Shadow can guide itself, which makes
it a more practical proposition.

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Old November 20th 03, 01:32 PM
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I heard a variant of that story -- they were using a Hercules to
bomb British troop positions. The Argies were using dumb bombs, but
modern ordnance such as Storm Shadow can guide itself, which makes
it a more practical proposition.


It was a Hercules in the story about the attempt on the QE2 as well.
But of course it could have been a story the QE2 crewman heard, and to
liven it up he applied it to the place he happened to be. I think that
was South Georgia island. Dunno if a Herk could go from Argentina to
South Georgia and back -- it's a fairly long jump.

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Old November 19th 03, 10:08 PM
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In message , Cub Driver
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During the Falklands War, the Argies put bombs aboard a transport and
rolled them out the back in an ineffectual attempt to bomb the QE2.
They didn't come near it, but they did send her scurrying back to
England. Or so a crewman on the boat told me.


They never got near the QE2.

They _did_ hit the Liberian-flagged tanker _Hercules_ with an UXB
dropped from an Argentine C-130: unfortunately, the tanker had nothing
to do with the war (one version has it she was on an Argentinean charter
at the time)

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Old November 19th 03, 10:18 PM
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On or about Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:20:50 -0500, Cub Driver
allegedly uttered:


I get an image of someone throwing a Storm Shadow out the
back of an A400M.


During the Falklands War, the Argies put bombs aboard a transport and
rolled them out the back in an ineffectual attempt to bomb the QE2.
They didn't come near it, but they did send her scurrying back to
England. Or so a crewman on the boat told me.


He's either mistaken or stringing you along.

The QE2 never went near the Islands (closest she got was South
Georgia) as she was deemed too valuable (read embarrassing) to lose.
And she didn't return until after the war.

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