SR 71, Shul's writing, and a question.

Tina wrote in
:

I mostly publish in the professional literature, but choose to not
offer a CV here.



I don't know why not. It'd be a great way of meeting new and interesting
people!


There's ample evidence you have difficulty
understanding even fairly simple writings based on opinions you've
expressed here, so the bet to make is you'd really misrepresent what
you might read in peer reviewed journals.


Nah!


Anthony?


Bertie

Tina writes:

I mostly publish in the professional literature, but choose to not
offer a CV here. There's ample evidence you have difficulty
understanding even fairly simple writings based on opinions you've
expressed here, so the bet to make is you'd really misrepresent what
you might read in peer reviewed journals.

The U.S. Code isn't a peer-reviewed journal.

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:20:15 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

Tina writes:

One may quote copywritten work (been there, and do that
professionally) so long as it complies with Sections 107-118 of the
code.

The applicability of 17 USC 107 is questionable; and I don't see how the other
sections apply at all.

In what capacity do you do this professionally? When I've done it
professionally, we've always spelled it copyright, since copywrite means
something entirely different, unrelated to IP, and confusing the two raises a
lot of legal issues.

Shul's signed limited edition book sells for something over $400,
there are less expensive versions available. It's unlikely Mx owns any
version, since we know from other of his writings he has very little
income.

I have a hardcover copy of the book. I don't remember if it's signed and I
don't have it in front of me. I don't think proceeds from the book have made
Shul rich, and further eroding its commercial value by quoting massive
excerpts from it in an archived, public, worldwide forum hardly seems ethical.
Next thing you know, someone will be posting scans of the (excellent) photos
in the book.

Of course you don't what a surprise. Like all those other books you have
read and written.

Prove it. Fancy pants.
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:09:48 -0500, Alric Knebel wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:20:15 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

Tina writes:

One may quote copywritten work (been there, and do that
professionally) so long as it complies with Sections 107-118 of the
code.

The applicability of 17 USC 107 is questionable; and I don't see how the other
sections apply at all.

In what capacity do you do this professionally? When I've done it
professionally, we've always spelled it copyright, since copywrite means
something entirely different, unrelated to IP, and confusing the two raises a
lot of legal issues.

Shul's signed limited edition book sells for something over $400,
there are less expensive versions available. It's unlikely Mx owns any
version, since we know from other of his writings he has very little
income.

I have a hardcover copy of the book. I don't remember if it's signed and I
don't have it in front of me. I don't think proceeds from the book have made
Shul rich, and further eroding its commercial value by quoting massive
excerpts from it in an archived, public, worldwide forum hardly seems ethical.
Next thing you know, someone will be posting scans of the (excellent) photos
in the book.

Of course you don't what a surprise. Like all those other books you have
read and written.

Prove it. Fancy pants.

How can i? I suppose just because you have good taste in books means you
have the rite to snub mine. but both my books were pretty good what you'd
call in in the rite frame of mine, cult classics.

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Tina wrote in news:897d3265-8e73-4b92-90eb-
:

The prior writer, Mx, noted


It's protected by copyright, too, which you might try to keep in mind.


One may quote copywritten work (been there, and do that
professionally) so long as it complies with Sections 107-118 of the
code. There are some general statements in what I've copied a couple
of paragraphs below that will suggest when one is getting close to a
limit.

Shul's signed limited edition book sells for something over $400,
there are less expensive versions available. It's unlikely Mx owns any
version, since we know from other of his writings he has very little
income.



re copyright:



One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to
reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work in copies or
phonorecords. This right is subject to certain limitations found in
sections 107 through 118 of the Copyright Act (title 17, U. S. Code).
One of the more important limitations is the doctrine of "fair use."
Although fair use was not mentioned in the previous copyright law, the
doctrine has developed through a substantial number of court decisions
over the years. This doctrine has been codified in section 107 of the
copyright law.

Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the
reproduction of a particular work may be considered "fair," such as
criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and
research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in
determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of
commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

the nature of the copyrighted work;

amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the
copyrighted work as a whole; and

the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the
copyrighted work.
The distinction between "fair use" and infringement may be unclear and
not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or
notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the
source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining
permission.




Wow, $400! I bought the third edition from Brian at the 1998 Stockton
airshow for $40. Even got his autograph!

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:23:41 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote in
:

Wow, $400! I bought the third edition from Brian at the 1998 Stockton
airshow for $40. Even got his autograph!


Today a copy will cost as much as $887.66:


http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASI...okfinderc06-21
Amazon.fr
[France] Hardcover, ISBN 0929823087
Publisher: Lickle Pub Inc, 1994
Very good condition Lickle Publications, 1994, hardcover.
Expédié de New York et London sous 6 à 18 jours ouvrés.;
Habituellement bateaux en 1-2 jours d'affaires $887.66

to:

http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ1093875QQtgZinfo

http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac... 9567_1:9:292

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...270187820 230
$125.00

Larry Dighera wrote in
:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:23:41 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote in
:

Wow, $400! I bought the third edition from Brian at the 1998 Stockton
airshow for $40. Even got his autograph!


Today a copy will cost as much as $887.66:


http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASI...m/bookfinderc0
6-21
Amazon.fr
[France] Hardcover, ISBN 0929823087
Publisher: Lickle Pub Inc, 1994
Very good condition Lickle Publications, 1994, hardcover.
Expédié de New York et London sous 6 à 18 jours ouvrés.;
Habituellement bateaux en 1-2 jours d'affaires $887.66

to:

http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ1093875QQtgZinfo

http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac...HasZAJkkQDfh3G
Z.R9Y_7383849567_1:9:292

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=2701878
20230
$125.00


Anyone who is paying $887.66 is living proof that P. T. Barnum was
right! I just did a Google search on "Sled Driver" and the first hit took
me to Brian's web page where the book is going for $427 + shipping. Add $25
if you want it autographed.

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:23:41 GMT, Marty Shapiro wrote:

Wow, $400! I bought the third edition from Brian at the 1998 Stockton
airshow for $40. Even got his autograph!

--
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Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)

I won't pay TWO Nickels for a book from a man who calls himself "Vagina"
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!

WJRFlyBoy wrote in
:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:23:41 GMT, Marty Shapiro wrote:

Wow, $400! I bought the third edition from Brian at the
1998 Stockton
airshow for $40. Even got his autograph!

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)

I won't pay TWO Nickels for a book from a man who calls himself
"Vagina"

So Bush's autobiography will be out as well, eh?

Bertie

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:26:15 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

Tina writes:

The following text is from Brian Shul's Sled Driver, his memoir of
flying the SR-71. It's a great read, and most of us has seen parts of
it before.

It's protected by copyright, too, which you might try to keep in mind.
YOU think I don't know that? Hey, K00k, is Vagina copywrtited too?
--
Alric Knebel

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