Firefox?

Guess it would help if I included the link

http://www.drublair.com/

Uzytkownik "Scott Ferrin" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:17:21 +0100, "JasiekS"
wrote:


U¿ytkownik "Christopher" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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I watched a dvd of the Clint Eastwood movie yesterday-I've seen it
before-bit of a slow movie but the Mig flying effects were cool.

[snip...]


Yes, this effect exists in the real world. Some time ago I searched the
Net
looking for some spectacular pictures. I found picture of low flying F-14
ripping two craters out of sea.


That's a PAINTING. It could have just as easily had walls of fire
coming out of the water.

MEA CULPA!!
I found this image again and I realized, that it has hand-written signature
in the lower-right corner.
I found also some variation of this picture, in which a water-skier rode the
wawes :-o)))

Regards
JasiekS
Warsaw, Poland

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:40:47 +0100, JasiekS wrote:

I found also some variation of this picture, in which a water-skier rode the
wawes :-o)))

Here's what's reported to be a low altitude supersonic pass by an F-14.
Check out the water below the Tomcat:
http://home.csumb.edu/m/mcdonalderik/world/superflyby.mpeg

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:47:06 GMT, Scott Ferrin
wrote:



Guess it would help if I included the link

http://www.drublair.com/

Thanks but I have both pics already.



Christopher
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Kites rise highest against
the wind - not with it."
Winston Churchill

No manned aircraft will make 3.0 on the deck. 1.2 - 1.3 is about it (which
is scary fast under 100 feet). Yes, the shock will be visible on the water.
Get low enough and your exhaust creates a roostertail even when subsonic.

R / John

"Christopher" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:41:03 GMT, Scott Ferrin
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:17:21 +0100, "JasiekS"
wrote:


U¿ytkownik "Christopher" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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I watched a dvd of the Clint Eastwood movie yesterday-I've seen it
before-bit of a slow movie but the Mig flying effects were cool.

Anyway, over the northen ocean above Russia when Clint was bearing
down on the Russian missile crusier he got it up to Mach 2.8 to Mach 3
about 50 feet above the water. The effect was a twin water plume that
followed the jet exhausts.

Would you get the same effect in the real world if a fighter plane
went that fast that low over water?

Yes, this effect exists in the real world. Some time ago I searched the
Net
looking for some spectacular pictures. I found picture of low flying
F-14
ripping two craters out of sea.


That's a PAINTING. It could have just as easily had walls of fire
coming out of the water.

Thats a pity. So if it was a painting of the effect, and not real,
what effect WOULD a plane doing Mach 3 or higher, 50 feet above water
have?



Christopher
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Kites rise highest against
the wind - not with it."
Winston Churchill

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:10:18 -0600, "John Carrier"
wrote:

No manned aircraft will make 3.0 on the deck. 1.2 - 1.3 is about it (which
is scary fast under 100 feet). Yes, the shock will be visible on the water.
Get low enough and your exhaust creates a roostertail even when subsonic.

Thanks for that, it seems the special effects guys for the movie did a
bit of research as to what would happen when Firefox went that fast
that low. It'd be quite a ride to do it for real. :-)

"Christopher" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:41:03 GMT, Scott Ferrin
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:17:21 +0100, "JasiekS"
wrote:


U¿ytkownik "Christopher" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
I watched a dvd of the Clint Eastwood movie yesterday-I've seen it
before-bit of a slow movie but the Mig flying effects were cool.

Anyway, over the northen ocean above Russia when Clint was bearing
down on the Russian missile crusier he got it up to Mach 2.8 to Mach 3
about 50 feet above the water. The effect was a twin water plume that
followed the jet exhausts.

Would you get the same effect in the real world if a fighter plane
went that fast that low over water?

Yes, this effect exists in the real world. Some time ago I searched the
Net
looking for some spectacular pictures. I found picture of low flying
F-14
ripping two craters out of sea.


That's a PAINTING. It could have just as easily had walls of fire
coming out of the water.

Thats a pity. So if it was a painting of the effect, and not real,
what effect WOULD a plane doing Mach 3 or higher, 50 feet above water
have?



Christopher
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Kites rise highest against
the wind - not with it."
Winston Churchill



Christopher
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Kites rise highest against
the wind - not with it."
Winston Churchill

Uzytkownik "Yeff" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:40:47 +0100, JasiekS wrote:

I found also some variation of this picture, in which a water-skier rode
the
wawes :-o)))

Here's what's reported to be a low altitude supersonic pass by an F-14.
Check out the water below the Tomcat:
http://home.csumb.edu/m/mcdonalderik/world/superflyby.mpeg

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

I know this clip. It was mentioned couple of times on this NG. I Think it is
high-subsonic rather than supersonic flight. In the case of real supersonic
flight a shock waves would appear on wings' leading edges and on fuselage
preventing the buildup of vapour. In this clip the shock wave is probably
where you cannot see it - BEHIND the 'cloud'.

Regards
JasiekS
Warsaw, Poland

I found picture of low flying F-14 ripping two craters out of sea.

That's a PAINTING.

Possibly from Dru Blair's studio; this is a favorite motif of his.
See if this looks familiar:
http://www.drublair.com/tomcat.html
("I researched this piece quite a bit, visiting the FAA Tech Center in
Ocean City, New Jersey, for information on fluid dynamics, vortex
generation, etc.," he says in an interview transcript available on the
site.)

Cheers,
--Joe

Ad absurdum per aspera wrote:

I found picture of low flying F-14 ripping two craters out of sea.


That's a PAINTING.


Possibly from Dru Blair's studio; this is a favorite motif of his.
See if this looks familiar:
http://www.drublair.com/tomcat.html
("I researched this piece quite a bit, visiting the FAA Tech Center in
Ocean City, New Jersey, for information on fluid dynamics, vortex
generation, etc.," he says in an interview transcript available on the
site.)

Good post. Awful painting.

John