FOI...lol... CFI oral?

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
The mark of a good instructor is that he can teach anything he knows to
anyone.

When I find someone who can explain anything to Anthony, I will
campaign to make him king of all peoples everywhere.

Indeed, and with his own flag, and serfs to carry it :-))))

Geez! If I knew there was a reward, I would have never given up so easily!!

On Jan 3, 10:29*am, "gatt" wrote:
Well, I scored 96% on the Fundamentals of Instruction exam and it took me
about ten minutes, so I kinda wish I'd not have stressed on all the
psychobabble so much. *I told the CATS proctor I was shooting for 100% and
he joked "Well, it's a solid fifteen-minute exam."

The Flight Instructor written looks like a thorough refresher rather than a
tough exam, then he told me what to expect on the oral exam which guarantees
I'll have my nose in the books for awhile. *Is the oral the toughest part of
the CFI rating?

An average amount of time for the oral is about 8 hours. Some
examiners schedule the oral on a different day than the flying. Expect
a lot of questions about FOI. This is one of the reasons some choose
to do the instrument instructor before the ASE instructor (to break up
a hard checkride).

-Robert, CFII

An average amount of time for the oral is about 8 hours.

I don't know where you instruct and how large a sample you based this on, but
it's certainly not true for the CFIs I know and have trained. One who had to
go recently with a difficult inspector from the local FSDO had an oral that
lasted about four hours, but most of the others I'm familiar with around two
hours.

Expect a lot of questions about FOI. This is one of the reasons some
choose to do the instrument instructor before the ASE instructor (to break
up a hard checkride).

But won't FOI still be covered if the instrument is the initial CFI checkride?

Barry wrote:
An average amount of time for the oral is about 8 hours.

I don't know where you instruct and how large a sample you based this on, but
it's certainly not true for the CFIs I know and have trained. One who had to
go recently with a difficult inspector from the local FSDO had an oral that
lasted about four hours, but most of the others I'm familiar with around two
hours.

Expect a lot of questions about FOI. This is one of the reasons some
choose to do the instrument instructor before the ASE instructor (to break
up a hard checkride).

But won't FOI still be covered if the instrument is the initial CFI checkride?


I recall my own oral at about two hours, but back in the stone age :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

On Jan 4, 11:56*am, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Barry wrote:
An average amount of time for the oral is about 8 hours.

I don't know where you instruct and how large a sample you based this on, but
it's certainly not true for the CFIs I know and have trained. *One who had to
go recently with a difficult inspector from the local FSDO had an oral that
lasted about four hours, but most of the others I'm familiar with around two
hours.

Expect a lot of questions about FOI. This is one of the reasons some
choose to do the instrument instructor before the ASE instructor (to break
up a hard checkride).

But won't FOI still be covered if the instrument is the initial CFI checkride?

I recall my own oral at about two hours, but back in the stone age :-)

I'm sure most checkrides were easier before the Wright Bros.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jan 4, 11:56 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Barry wrote:
An average amount of time for the oral is about 8 hours.
I don't know where you instruct and how large a sample you based this on, but
it's certainly not true for the CFIs I know and have trained. One who had to
go recently with a difficult inspector from the local FSDO had an oral that
lasted about four hours, but most of the others I'm familiar with around two
hours.
Expect a lot of questions about FOI. This is one of the reasons some
choose to do the instrument instructor before the ASE instructor (to break
up a hard checkride).
But won't FOI still be covered if the instrument is the initial CFI checkride?
I recall my own oral at about two hours, but back in the stone age :-)

I'm sure most checkrides were easier before the Wright Bros.

-Robert

Ouch! ......and I took the practical flight test in my trusty
Pterodactyl 200 :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

Gatt, what did you use for prep of your FOI/CFI


"gatt" wrote in message
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Well, I scored 96% on the Fundamentals of Instruction exam and it took me
about ten minutes, so I kinda wish I'd not have stressed on all the
psychobabble so much. I told the CATS proctor I was shooting for 100% and
he joked "Well, it's a solid fifteen-minute exam."

The Flight Instructor written looks like a thorough refresher rather than
a tough exam, then he told me what to expect on the oral exam which
guarantees I'll have my nose in the books for awhile. Is the oral the
toughest part of the CFI rating?

-c

I used the FAA Aviation Instructor's Handbook and the Gleim Certified Flight
Instructor test prep. The first chapter of the latter is the FOI test.

By recommendation here I bought a used copy of Kershner's Flight
Instructor's Manual, which is great, but not best for the written exams so I
read threw a few chapters and put it aside for the time being. That's it
so far, although these guys have me a little nervous about the oral exam
now. :

-c


"NW_Pilot" wrote in message news:

Gatt, what did you use for prep of your FOI/CFI


"gatt" wrote in message
...

Well, I scored 96% on the Fundamentals of Instruction exam and it took me
about ten minutes, so I kinda wish I'd not have stressed on all the
psychobabble so much. I told the CATS proctor I was shooting for 100%
and he joked "Well, it's a solid fifteen-minute exam."

The Flight Instructor written looks like a thorough refresher rather than
a tough exam, then he told me what to expect on the oral exam which
guarantees I'll have my nose in the books for awhile. Is the oral the
toughest part of the CFI rating?
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"gatt" wrote in message
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these guys have me a little nervous about the oral exam now.

Don't be nervous, be prepared. I don't have figures, but most pass on the
first try.

If possible, team up with another CFI candidate and role play. Answering
oral questions is a skill worth practicing, also a bit of friendly competition
makes study both enjoyable and efficient.

Vaughn

"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
news:P4gfj.104176
"gatt" wrote in message

these guys have me a little nervous about the oral exam now.

Don't be nervous, be prepared. I don't have figures, but most pass on the
first try.

If possible, team up with another CFI candidate and role play.
Answering oral questions is a skill worth practicing, also a bit of
friendly competition makes study both enjoyable and efficient.

Thanks for the advice. After reading through the Jeppeson
Instrument/Commercial text a little last night, I'm actually starting to
look forward to the challenge.

-c