Buying an incomplete project

On Jan 6, 5:54*pm, Dave S wrote:
Kyle Boatright wrote:

* The key is that you need to be able to demonstrate that

51% of the airplane was amateur built.

KB

Last I read it was 51% of the TASKS of building the plane.

ergo.. if a plane has 100 ribs in the wing, if you build ONE rib, you
have accomplished the task of building wing ribs and do not have to
build all 100 of them.. or 51 of them...

thats where the quickbuilds tread the line..

Interesting to note that the nonprimary builder can get the repairmans
cert. I knew that only one person COULD have it, but presumed it was the
one who did the majority of the building.

Dave

I thought that cert could be gotten extra ONLY for experimental light
sport aircraft -- and only with about $5000 - $6000 worth of training
(in an FAA certified program).

On Jan 6, 7:45*pm, wrote:

I thought that cert could be gotten extra ONLY for experimental light
sport aircraft -- and only with about $5000 - $6000 worth of training
(in an FAA certified program).

That's not true. The first registrant of an amateur-built experimental
may apply for (and will probably receive) a repairmans certificate
applying only to that aircraft. The only real privilege it confers is
that of conducting the annual condition inspection. See the rah FAQs
for cites.

Thanks, Bob K.

On Jan 6, 11:34*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Jan 6, 7:45*pm, wrote:

I thought that cert could be gotten extra ONLY for experimental light
sport aircraft -- and only with about $5000 - $6000 worth of training
(in an FAA certified program).

That's not true. The first registrant of an amateur-built experimental
may apply for (and will probably receive) a repairmans certificate
applying only to that aircraft. The only real privilege it confers is
that of conducting the annual condition inspection. See the rah FAQs
for cites.

Thanks, Bob K.

Yes. But you can ONLY be a repairman for that ONE aircraft. With the E-
LSA training, you can be a repairman for ALL aircraft of that type.

I thought that cert could be gotten extra ONLY for experimental light
sport aircraft -- and only with about $5000 - $6000 worth of training
(in an FAA certified program).

If I remember correctly...

The repairmans certificate for an Light Sport Aircraft and the
repairmans certificate for an Experimental-Amateur Built Aircraft (NOT
in the light sport category) are two separate items with differing
requirements.

Dave

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:49:44 -0600, Dave S wrote:



I thought that cert could be gotten extra ONLY for experimental light
sport aircraft -- and only with about $5000 - $6000 worth of training
(in an FAA certified program).

If I remember correctly...

The repairmans certificate for an Light Sport Aircraft and the
repairmans certificate for an Experimental-Amateur Built Aircraft (NOT
in the light sport category) are two separate items with differing
requirements.

That is correct. The Repairman Certificate for an Experimental Amateur-Built
aircraft is appliable to only a single airframe.

There are two Repairman Certificates for Light Sport. The Light Sport -
Inspection certificate is the equivalent of the Amateur-Built Repairman
Certificate, with the exception being that the LS-I certificate is applicable to
any Experimental Light Sport aircraft in the same category, providing the holder
*owns* the aircraft.

In other words, with an LS-I RC in the airplane category, I can buy any ELSA
(Experimental LSA) in that category, and perform all maintenance and
inspections. If I buy a SLSA (e.g., ready-to-fly LSA), I can convert it to ELSA
and then, again perform all maintenance and inspections. However, the aircraft
cannot be used for hire with an ELSA certification. I can later sell that
airplane, buy another, and again perform all maintenance and inspections as long
as it is certified as Experimental Light Sport.

The other LSA Repairman Certificate is the Light Sport - Maintenance (LS-M).
This is the equivalent of an A&P for aircraft certified as Light Sport.

Neither the LS-I nor LS-M have any applicability outside aircraft *certified* as
light sport. My Fly Baby, for instance, qualifies as a Light Sport aircraft
(thus I can fly it as a Sport Pilot) but since it is certified as Experimental
Amateur-Built, neither an LS-I nor an LS-M would allow me to perform the yearly
condition inspection.

It's interesting to note that an A&P with an AI is required to perform the
annual inspection on a Cessna 152, but a Cessna 162 Skycatcher will only require
an LS-I (assuming you transfer it to ELSA).

Ron Wanttaja