Commercial Written

On 2008-01-05 14:47:35 -0800, Jay Maynard
said:

On 2008-01-05, wrote:
One more rant: why do they have so many ADF questions? How long has it
been since anyone's seen an airplane with a working ADF? I've never
flown one.

One question I'm having in my airplane search is that my home airport's ILS
approach (FRM ILS 13) requires an ADF. How do I deal with that if I can't
get an ADF in the airplane?

A lot of airports use an NDB for missed approach instructions, or they
use the NDB as a fix for other types of approaches. If it is part of
the missed approach instructions, you simply ask ATC for alternate
missed approach instructions. Pilots do this all the time at airports
like Bremerton (PWT).

Fairmont's ILS 13 plate does not leave any room for doubt, however. The
ADF is required, so I guess they don't want to give you any alternate
missed approach instructions. The only answer here is that you just
don't fly the ILS.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Any of y'all taken the FAA commercial written recently?

We're having a spell of bad weather here, so I got the ASA commercial
test prep book for hangar flying fun. I've got all the flight
experience needed for a commercial, minus the specific practical test
preparation, so I guess I'll try for that rating for my next BFR.

What I see is that the questions are still all full of what I call
"Simon says" type problems: absurdly picky gotchas along with
impossible to read fuzzy graphs. In one of them the "right" answer is
689 feet ground roll and one of the wrong answers is 716 feet. Now how
can anyone read those fuzzy pictures precisely enough to tell the
difference?

So, for anyone's who's done it lately: do you get a printed, fuzzy
book to read the charts from on the actual computer test? How is the
test run? It's been quite awhile since I took private and instrument.
Things might have changed since then.

One more rant: why do they have so many ADF questions? How long has it
been since anyone's seen an airplane with a working ADF?


Yesterday.


Bertie

Yesterday.

Bertie-

Today: two hours ago.

On Jan 6, 7:08 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote in news:4ab3f73b-091e-4671-8bcb-
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Any of y'all taken the FAA commercial written recently?

We're having a spell of bad weather here, so I got the ASA commercial
test prep book for hangar flying fun. I've got all the flight
experience needed for a commercial, minus the specific practical test
preparation, so I guess I'll try for that rating for my next BFR.

What I see is that the questions are still all full of what I call
"Simon says" type problems: absurdly picky gotchas along with
impossible to read fuzzy graphs. In one of them the "right" answer is
689 feet ground roll and one of the wrong answers is 716 feet. Now how
can anyone read those fuzzy pictures precisely enough to tell the
difference?

So, for anyone's who's done it lately: do you get a printed, fuzzy
book to read the charts from on the actual computer test? How is the
test run? It's been quite awhile since I took private and instrument.
Things might have changed since then.

One more rant: why do they have so many ADF questions? How long has it
been since anyone's seen an airplane with a working ADF?

Yesterday.

Bertie

How very special. Unsurprising, as it's been clear for some time that
you are a very special sort of aviator.

I'm done with the written now but still have yet to see a working ADF.
The few old dogs I've seen that are still hauling one around have all
had them placarded inop.

wrote in news:7d3779b6-9ef2-4b7d-833e-
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Yesterday.

Bertie

How very special. Unsurprising, as it's been clear for some time that
you are a very special sort of aviator.


Yeah, only speshul peeple fly with ADFs.


I'm done with the written now but still have yet to see a working ADF.
The few old dogs I've seen that are still hauling one around have all
had them placarded inop.


We can't dispatch without at least one working if an approach requiring one
is anticipated.
I suggest you stop flying ****.



Bertie

On Jan 17, 6:04 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote in news:7d3779b6-9ef2-4b7d-833e-
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Yesterday.

Bertie

How very special. Unsurprising, as it's been clear for some time that
you are a very special sort of aviator.

Yeah, only speshul peeple fly with ADFs.



I'm done with the written now but still have yet to see a working ADF.
The few old dogs I've seen that are still hauling one around have all
had them placarded inop.

We can't dispatch without at least one working if an approach requiring one
is anticipated.
I suggest you stop flying ****.

Bertie



A good suggestion, no doubt, but beat up old **** with half the
instruments inop tends to be what's available.

wrote in
:

On Jan 17, 6:04 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote in news:7d3779b6-9ef2-4b7d-833e-
:



Yesterday.

Bertie

How very special. Unsurprising, as it's been clear for some time
that you are a very special sort of aviator.

Yeah, only speshul peeple fly with ADFs.



I'm done with the written now but still have yet to see a working
ADF. The few old dogs I've seen that are still hauling one around
have all had them placarded inop.

We can't dispatch without at least one working if an approach
requiring one is anticipated.
I suggest you stop flying ****.

Bertie



A good suggestion, no doubt, but beat up old **** with half the
instruments inop tends to be what's available.

How do you get your sports scores or do your lazy eighs to oldies
without one?


Bertie

I took it a bit over 2 years ago. I didn't like all the questions that
asked how many minutes to station it was when you some degrees or miles
off course. Who navigates like that?

I had forgotten the formula for that, so I tried using the sine formula
for figuring out triangle sides and angles. I only had my Jeppeson
TechStar calculator with me that doesn't have trig functions. No problem
though. The testing program has a built-in calculator that did. That
stupid calculator gave the results in radians though.

wrote:
Any of y'all taken the FAA commercial written recently?

Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address) wrote:
I took it a bit over 2 years ago. I didn't like all the questions that
asked how many minutes to station it was when you some degrees or miles
off course. Who navigates like that?


I can't say that I ever did but I remember the formula.


I had forgotten the formula for that, so I tried using the sine formula
for figuring out triangle sides and angles. I only had my Jeppeson
TechStar calculator with me that doesn't have trig functions. No problem
though. The testing program has a built-in calculator that did. That
stupid calculator gave the results in radians though.


Time to station = (minutes between bearing change X 60) / degrees of bearing
change. A shortcut is to note the time required for a 10 degree bearing change
in seconds, then divide that number by 10. That will also give you the time to
station in minutes.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address) wrote:
I took it a bit over 2 years ago. I didn't like all the questions that
asked how many minutes to station it was when you some degrees or miles
off course. Who navigates like that?

Yeah!

There's no answer that states "The time shown in the DISTANCE TO NEXT box!"