and a new pilot/engineer is born.

On Jan 15, 12:41*am, Jim Stewart wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Charles Vincent wrote in
et:

Ricky wrote:
On Jan 14, 7:19 pm, William Hung wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/homemade-...-man-builds-wo
...

Way to go Muhammed!

Wil
I remain extremely skeptical that the thing flys until I see a
picture or video of it in the air.
I mean, 133 hp?? With heavy Toyota car seats (4 of them)? Don't the
smallest helios have over 200 hp?

Ricky
Other articles on the helicopter have reported its maximum altitude as
seven feet. *He is hoping to build one that will achieve fifteen feet..
Still an achievement, as that is untethered.

If he's really done it, it certainly is.

Moller ought to hire him to work on the Skycar....- Hide quoted text -

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Moller makes the 409 scammers look like amateurs.

Wil

An accomplishment? Or an accident looking for a crash site?



The 12-meter-long aircraft, which has never flown above a height of
seven feet, is powered by a secondhand 133 horsepower engine from a
Honda Civic. In the basic cockpit there are two Toyota car seats, with a
couple more in the cabin behind. Controls are simple, with an ignition
button, an accelerator lever to control vertical thrust and a joystick
that provides balance and bearing. A camera beneath the chopper
connected to a small screen on the dash gives the pilot ground vision,
and he communicates via a small transmitter.

Mubarak says he learned the basics of helicopter flying through the
internet after he decided it would be easier to build a chopper than a
car. Flying his creation is easy, he claims. "You start it, allow it to
run for a minute or two and you then shift the accelerator forward and
the propeller on top begins to spin," he explains. "The further you
shift the accelerator the faster it goes and once you reach 300 rpm you
press the joystick and it takes off."

Undeterred that his home-made transporter, which lives in a hangar on
campus, lacks the gear to measure atmospheric pressure, altitude and
humidity, Mubarak is working on a new machine which "will be a radical
improvement on the first one in terms of sophistication and aesthetics."

A two-seater with the ability to fly at 15 feet for three hours at a
time, Mubarak's new creation will be powered by a brand-new motor
straight from Taiwan, normally found in motorbikes.

cavelamb himself wrote in news:13oogue62hl6fc7
@corp.supernews.com:

An accomplishment? Or an accident looking for a crash site?

I've been in Nigeria. It's probably still safer than taking a bus.

Bertie

On Jan 15, 12:29*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
cavelamb himself wrote in news:13oogue62hl6fc7
@corp.supernews.com:

An accomplishment? *Or an accident looking for a crash site?

I've been in Nigeria. It's probably still safer than taking a bus.

Bertie

I would rather see him do this than have him run 409 scams.

Wil

On Jan 14, 11:22 pm, cavelamb himself wrote:
An accomplishment? Or an accident looking for a crash site?
.........

Hmmmm.... it did not crash yet. But plenty of homebuilts here in North
America have while testing. Plenty of homebuilts here never got off
the ground because they are still in the garage after 20, 30? years
and never get built. Come on... give the youth credit for ambition.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:37:27 -0800 (PST), wrote in
:

Plenty of homebuilts here never got off
the ground because they are still in the garage after 20, 30? years
and never get built. Come on... give the youth credit for ambition.

Exactly. Not only that, but:


http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/homemade-...unk-313408.php
A 24-year-old undergraduate from Nigeria is building helicopters
out of old car and bike parts. Mubarak Muhammed Abdullahi, a
physics student, spent eight months building the yellow model seen
here, using the money he makes from repairing cellphones and
computers.

Eight months! Who has built anything that flies in 8 months?

MMmmm..I guess I have:
http://www.dighera.com/otto_meet_5-23-71_larry.avi :-)
http://www.dighera.com/otto_meet_5-23-71.avi
(These take a little time to load; be patient.)
It still took about a month of weekends to complete.

Historical information he
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...a?dmode=source

cavelamb himself wrote:
An accomplishment? Or an accident looking for a crash site?



The 12-meter-long aircraft, which has never flown above a height of
seven feet, is powered by a secondhand 133 horsepower engine from a
Honda Civic. In the basic cockpit there are two Toyota car seats, with a
couple more in the cabin behind. Controls are simple, with an ignition
button, an accelerator lever to control vertical thrust and a joystick
that provides balance and bearing. A camera beneath the chopper
connected to a small screen on the dash gives the pilot ground vision,
and he communicates via a small transmitter.

Mubarak says he learned the basics of helicopter flying through the
internet after he decided it would be easier to build a chopper than a
car. Flying his creation is easy, he claims. "You start it, allow it to
run for a minute or two and you then shift the accelerator forward and
the propeller on top begins to spin," he explains. "The further you
shift the accelerator the faster it goes and once you reach 300 rpm you
press the joystick and it takes off."

Undeterred that his home-made transporter, which lives in a hangar on
campus, lacks the gear to measure atmospheric pressure, altitude and
humidity, Mubarak is working on a new machine which "will be a radical
improvement on the first one in terms of sophistication and aesthetics."

A two-seater with the ability to fly at 15 feet for three hours at a
time, Mubarak's new creation will be powered by a brand-new motor
straight from Taiwan, normally found in motorbikes.

I make it an accomplishment, AND probably also an accident waiting to
happen;hopefully not.
Just figuring out the hard numbers and applying them to available parts
and achieving untethered flight for even a few feet, considering
everything involved in doing that, marks this fellow as someone with
unusual talent.
Fron the looks of that thing however, I sincerely hope some legitimate
helo company offers this guy a steady job before his talent ends up
being wasted by his experimenting any deeper into the highly complicated
world of helo flying.
After accomplishing what he has done already, I'd not like to see him
injured or killed for lack of suitable employment.

--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

cavelamb himself wrote:
An accomplishment? Or an accident looking for a crash site?



The 12-meter-long aircraft, which has never flown above a height of
seven feet, is powered by a secondhand 133 horsepower engine from a
Honda Civic. In the basic cockpit there are two Toyota car seats,
with a couple more in the cabin behind. Controls are simple, with an
ignition button, an accelerator lever to control vertical thrust and
a joystick that provides balance and bearing. A camera beneath the
chopper connected to a small screen on the dash gives the pilot
ground vision, and he communicates via a small transmitter.

Mubarak says he learned the basics of helicopter flying through the
internet after he decided it would be easier to build a chopper than
a car. Flying his creation is easy, he claims. "You start it, allow
it to run for a minute or two and you then shift the accelerator
forward and the propeller on top begins to spin," he explains. "The
further you shift the accelerator the faster it goes and once you
reach 300 rpm you press the joystick and it takes off."

Undeterred that his home-made transporter, which lives in a hangar on
campus, lacks the gear to measure atmospheric pressure, altitude and
humidity, Mubarak is working on a new machine which "will be a
radical improvement on the first one in terms of sophistication and
aesthetics."

A two-seater with the ability to fly at 15 feet for three hours at a
time, Mubarak's new creation will be powered by a brand-new motor
straight from Taiwan, normally found in motorbikes.

I make it an accomplishment, AND probably also an accident waiting to
happen;hopefully not.
Just figuring out the hard numbers and applying them to available
parts and achieving untethered flight for even a few feet, considering
everything involved in doing that, marks this fellow as someone with
unusual talent.
Fron the looks of that thing however, I sincerely hope some legitimate
helo company offers this guy a steady job before his talent ends up
being wasted by his experimenting any deeper into the highly
complicated world of helo flying.
After accomplishing what he has done already, I'd not like to see him
injured or killed for lack of suitable employment.

Plenty of crap for him to jury rig in Nigeria.
They still make ( or at least did a few years ago) the VW Beetle and the
old Peugot 504, whihc have to be the two hardiest cars ever made judgine
by thr amount of abuse the Nigerians give them.I can see a few Peugot
parts in that heli, I think.
The Air Force also make the RV6A as a trainer, dubbing it the "Air
Beetle" after the VW. they use them as Air force trainers.
So, there are things for the enterprising engineer to do there!


Bertie

William Hung wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/homemade-...unk-313408.php

Way to go Muhammed!

Wil

All he needs is my help in collecting his $18.2 million dollars.

Well as we said about an elderly gentleman we met at an airshow with his
homemade coaxial helicopter with a Geo engine connected such that the cyclic
tilted the entire engine-drive train to obtain forward, sideways and
rearward flight. It had no collective but just used more throttle to climb
and less to descend. There were places where you could see the threads on
the ends of the water piping used to make the frame. He was actively
looking for a test pilot to try out his bird. I declined saying that while
I was fearless, I lacked the necessary qualifications to test fly his bird.
He didn't just set around talking, he built one that he learned a bunch from
and was going to learn a bunch more if he tried to fly it. We did ask him
to let us know if he was going to start it up. We had definite plans to
move our helicopters to the other end of the field if he was going to
demonstrate his bird.
Our work producing the Experimental Helo magazine has brought us in contact
with some pretty amazing devices.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
William Hung wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/homemade-...unk-313408.php

Way to go Muhammed!

Wil

All he needs is my help in collecting his $18.2 million dollars.