Brakes?

On Feb 10, 7:52 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Oh wait, you're an idiot.

Bertie

PKB

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:42:05 -0800 (PST), buttman
wrote:

On Feb 10, 1:15 am, WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:15 pm, wrote:

WingFlaps wrote:
Simple question, when refuelling should brakes be on or off (for a
light plane)? I've been told both answers with logical reasons for
both. What should I do???

If you find yourself chasing the airplane across the ramp, the brakes
should probably be on.

Parking brakes shouldn't be used for extended periods; that's what
chokes are for.

I'm asking about refuelling, not parking per se.

Cheers

I fueled light planes dozens of times, at dozens of airports. I've
never used the parking brake ever. If the pump happens to be on an
incline, I'll either find chocks, or once I had my student hold the
plane by the prop while I fueled because we couldn't find any chocks
laying around.

I've never resorted to chocks for refueling in all these years. Just
the parking brake unless it was REALLY windy. :-)) OTOH I don't
leave the plae without using chocks.

Roger (K8RI)
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:15?pm, wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
Simple question, when refuelling should brakes be on or off (for a
light plane)? I've been told both answers with logical reasons for
both. What should I do???

If you find yourself chasing the airplane across the ramp, the brakes
should probably be on.

Parking brakes shouldn't be used for extended periods; that's what
chokes are for.


I'm asking about refuelling, not parking per se.

What do you think is particular about refueling as opposed to any
other sort of short term parking other than attaching a static
ground to the airplane?

If you are alone with no one around to restrain the airplane, stop
the engine and release the brakes.

If the airplanes starts to roll, apply the parking brakes while you
restrain the airplane.

If it doesn't roll, don't apply the parking brakes.

I just don't see why you stopped makes the slightest difference.

--
Jim Pennino

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WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:15?pm, wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
Simple question, when refuelling should brakes be on or off (for a
light plane)? I've been told both answers with logical reasons for
both. What should I do???

If you find yourself chasing the airplane across the ramp, the brakes
should probably be on.

Parking brakes shouldn't be used for extended periods; that's what
chokes are for.


I'm asking about refuelling, not parking per se.

What do you think is particular about refueling as opposed to any
other sort of short term parking other than attaching a static
ground to the airplane?

If you are alone with no one around to restrain the airplane, stop
the engine and release the brakes.

If the airplanes starts to roll, apply the parking brakes while you
restrain the airplane.

If it doesn't roll, don't apply the parking brakes.

I just don't see why you stopped makes the slightest difference.


I don't either.


Bertie

WingFlaps,

I'm asking about refuelling, not parking per se.


What's the difference?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message

I'm asking about refuelling, not parking per se.


What's the difference?

Refuelling is short term.

Pilots don't generally tie their airplanes down, apply control locks etc
when they refuel, but they do when they park, so there's definately a
difference.

-c

On Feb 9, 9:15 pm, wrote:

Some people have the notion they should never be used.

If that were so, why did the manufacturer put them on in the first place?

--
Jim Pennino

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1. Over time they have the tendency to stick, which can be a problem
when taking off from a short runway.

2. At big airports, tug drivers sometimes think they can just move any
plane they want if it's in their way. If your parking brake is set,
it'll get ruined this way.

buttman wrote in
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On Feb 9, 9:15 pm, wrote:

Some people have the notion they should never be used.

If that were so, why did the manufacturer put them on in the first
place?

--
Jim Pennino

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1. Over time they have the tendency to stick, which can be a problem
when taking off from a short runway.

2. At big airports, tug drivers sometimes think they can just move any
plane they want if it's in their way. If your parking brake is set,
it'll get ruined this way.



Oh brother.


Bertie

buttman wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:15 pm, wrote:
Some people have the notion they should never be used.

If that were so, why did the manufacturer put them on in the first place?

--
Jim Pennino

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1. Over time they have the tendency to stick, which can be a problem
when taking off from a short runway.

If your brakes stick in the amount of time it takes fuel. Get them
fixed. If you can't tell in during the taxi to take-off then you
shouldn't have a problem.



2. At big airports, tug drivers sometimes think they can just move any
plane they want if it's in their way. If your parking brake is set,
it'll get ruined this way.


See issue #1. Well, that's one way to get your brakes fixed.

Some people have the notion they should never be used.

If that were so, why did the manufacturer put them on in the first place?



They are there so the floater doesn't break his teeth on the strut when his
foot slips off of the wheel while he is trying to stand on it. At least
that's what brakes are for on a 182.
Geez, I thought everyone knew that! :-)

BS, TonyP.