Ferry Pilot Down

NWPilot, and a very small group of pilots, perform
a very vital service to the aviation community.

Very Vital Service

it takes a very special group of pilots to ferry "small"
aircraft over the two big "ponds" off the east and west coasts of the
North American continent.

Yea, we have balls larger then an elephant and very strong mental
ability's to keep it cool under the pressure flying aircraft with
extensively modified
fuel systems in over weight conditions over unfavorable terrain in
marginal weather conditions. Then doing an ILS or some other approach
after being cooped up for 15 hours or more.

The North Atlantic, like the North Pacific,
can be fatal to anyone who "screws the pooch". It appears, that in this
case, a mechanical failure may have occurred and the airplane went down,
taking the pilot with it. However, none of us in this NG knows the
exact details of this accident and probably will never know.

Correct, Unless they fish the plane out and some times they do.

I have never been to Iowa City and have not
stayed at Jay's establishment. He, and Mary, bust their asses off to
run a great little business.

Yes, they do and I patronize it when ever possible.

I thank Jay for posting usually ditching's such as this are not even a
headline on a newspaper.

Thanks again jay ignore the childish flamers.

wrote in news:447d6879-b1c4-404d-a5d5-
:

NWPilot, and a very small group of pilots, perform
a very vital service to the aviation community.

Very Vital Service

it takes a very special group of pilots to ferry "small"
aircraft over the two big "ponds" off the east and west coasts of the
North American continent.

Yea, we have balls larger then an elephant and very strong mental
ability's to keep it cool under the pressure flying aircraft with
extensively modified
fuel systems in over weight conditions over unfavorable terrain in
marginal weather conditions. Then doing an ILS or some other approach
after being cooped up for 15 hours or more.

The North Atlantic, like the North Pacific,
can be fatal to anyone who "screws the pooch". It appears, that in
this
case, a mechanical failure may have occurred and the airplane went
down,
taking the pilot with it. However, none of us in this NG knows the
exact details of this accident and probably will never know.

Correct, Unless they fish the plane out and some times they do.

I have never been to Iowa City and have not
stayed at Jay's establishment. He, and Mary, bust their asses off to
run a great little business.

Yes, they do and I patronize it when ever possible.

I thank Jay for posting usually ditching's such as this are not even a
headline on a newspaper.

Thanks again jay ignore the childish flamers.

Yeah, one of whom was doing it long before GPS or loran...



Bertie

As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum, and
criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a stupidity only
exhibited by various US politicians.

Please do not feed the trolls... As much as I appreciate your defense, I
think it's safe to say that any real pilots here have long since discovered
that "Bertie" is nothing but a troll -- and responding to him in any way
only feeds his mental illness.

Worse, the kill file I've set up only zaps HIS message -- not your
response(s). This means I must read his drivel in order to view your
post -- something that truly is not worth anyone's time.

I know it's hard to resist the temptation, but the only way to make posters
like Bertie go away is to give them no response. Sooner or later they find
another playground to terrorize.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum, and
criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a stupidity only
exhibited by various US politicians.

Please do not feed the trolls... As much as I appreciate your defense, I
think it's safe to say that any real pilots here have long since discovered
that "Bertie" is nothing but a troll -- and responding to him in any way
only feeds his mental illness.

Nah, Bertie is an opinionated, crusty, sometimes informative, sometimes
entertaining, sometimes annoying, old fart that doesn't suffer fools
easily, but definately is not a troll.

Like others that have achieved this status, he could give a crap less
what anyone thinks of him and just says what he feels without having
the need to justify it.

WYSIWYG.

--
Jim Pennino

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Jay Honeck wrote:
As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum,
and criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a
stupidity only exhibited by various US politicians.

Please do not feed the trolls... As much as I appreciate your
defense, I think it's safe to say that any real pilots here have long
since discovered that "Bertie" is nothing but a troll -- and
responding to him in any way only feeds his mental illness.

Nah, Bertie is an opinionated, crusty, sometimes informative,
sometimes entertaining, sometimes annoying, old fart that doesn't
suffer fools easily, but definately is not a troll.

Like others that have achieved this status, he could give a crap less
what anyone thinks of him and just says what he feels without having
the need to justify it.

Thenkew. though i object to the crusty part. I do use a loofah as often as
I can.


Bertie

Nah, Bertie is an opinionated, crusty, sometimes informative, sometimes
entertaining, sometimes annoying, old fart that doesn't suffer fools
easily, but definately is not a troll.

You're definition of troll is certainly unusual.

Anyone who responds with a knee-jerk "fujkwit!" to every, single post that
is made by another poster is, by definition, a troll.

Anyone who responds with personal attacks and lies for the sole purpose of
stirring controversy and provoking a response is, by definition, a troll.

Any aviation contributions Bertie may make here are completely incidental to
this sad fact. His mental illness (and that's what it is -- let's call a
spade a spade) has negated any positive impact he may have once been able to
contribute.

It's truly a shame, but that's why the kill file was invented.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

wrote:
[...] he could give a crap less
what anyone thinks of him and just says what he feels without having
the need to justify it.

Looks like a fallacy, specifically: special pleading:

Why is that justification considered valid when applied to an anonymous
poster like Bertie but not valid when applied to a poster who uses his real
name like Jay?

As far as I can tell Jay has just as much right to "give a crap less what
anyone thinks of him" and just say what he feels about "Bertie" without
having to justify it.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:ZK8tj.34218$9j6.6554@attbi_s22:

As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum,
and criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a
stupidity only exhibited by various US politicians.

Please do not feed the trolls... As much as I appreciate your
defense, I think it's safe to say that any real pilots here have long
since discovered that "Bertie" is nothing but a troll -- and
responding to him in any way only feeds his mental illness.

Worse, the kill file I've set up only zaps HIS message -- not your
response(s). This means I must read his drivel in order to view your
post -- something that truly is not worth anyone's time.



Yeah, right luser boi..


I know it's hard to resist the temptation, but the only way to make
posters like Bertie go away is to give them no response. Sooner or
later they find another playground to terrorize.


Actually, that has never worked on me..

Feel free to check.


Bertie

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
I know it's hard to resist the temptation, but the only way to make
posters like Bertie go away is to give them no response. Sooner or
later they find another playground to terrorize.

I don't think that would drive him away. But for other reasons I think it
is generally a good idea to not respond to every provocation.

It appears Bertie doesn't like you - based on his past posts (haven't read
them all) I'd guess it is because you have political views that differ from
his, he thinks you're a bigot because of views you have expressed with
regard to illegal immigration, and you use employment practices that appear
to be needlessly callous. (Again - all just guesses.)

He might also think you're a self-centered blow-hard, but if so, I'd say he
was spitting into the wind on that count. ;-) (Practically by definition I
think one has to be a self-centered blow-hard to post responses to Usenet.
:-) )

Jim Logajan wrote in
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
I know it's hard to resist the temptation, but the only way to make
posters like Bertie go away is to give them no response. Sooner or
later they find another playground to terrorize.

I don't think that would drive him away. But for other reasons I think
it is generally a good idea to not respond to every provocation.

Responses vary.

It appears Bertie doesn't like you - based on his past posts (haven't
read them all) I'd guess it is because you have political views that
differ from his, he thinks you're a bigot because of views you have
expressed with regard to illegal immigration, and you use employment
practices that appear to be needlessly callous. (Again - all just
guesses.)


Not correct. I was playing battleship with him on that ane and sunk his
submarine with a hit.

He might also think you're a self-centered blow-hard,

Amongst other things.

But I can forgive everything bar hypocrisy and a lack of a sense of humor,
whihc pretty much leaves Jay ****ed.


Bertie