further thoughts about women suicide bombers

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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I believe it's pertinent, and if a serious question , deserves a better
answer than that offered by Ford.

You guys are a hoot. At what stage of your lives did you stop
laughing?

all the best -- Dan Ford
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That's an interesting observation Dan; I guess it's supposed to be your
subtle way of letting us know that what you said was tongue in cheek and
that we, having lost our sense of humor, missed your otherwise obvious
attempt at playing the devil's advocate?
Well, FWIW old buddy, there are issues I'll laugh about, and issues I'll let
pass without using them to fuel my sense of humor; or anyone else's for that
matter; and using an issue like this, is one I wouldn't use. Obviously, we
disagree on our definition of what's "laughable".
Aside from this, and after reading your initial post again word for word
from top to bottom and finding absolutely nothing there that indicates in
any way whatsoever that the post is anything but serious, might I suggest
that in the future, if subtle humor or sarcasm is your intent, and since
you're a professional writer :-), perhaps you could bend a bit for us less
intelligent and less intellectual types out here and try posting with at
least SOME indication that what you are posting is tongue in cheek?
Finally, since my sense of humor doesn't include discussing people blowing
themselves up, I'll go somewhere else and find another thread where I might
put my sense of humor to better use.
Hey, as you like to say,
"All the best"
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
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Please use the word correctly.

It was used ironically. No offense intended!

(If you check back, you will find that I was the "some other lowlife"
who responded to the despicable misogynist.)

all the best -- Dan Ford
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B2431 wrote:

I am the "despicable mysogynist" who asked the question. The question is valid
and still stands. One of the rewards frequently cited for martyrs is the 72
virgins. I never said the virgins the female martyrs would get were also
female.

*Seventy-two* virgins??!!!

For some reason, I was thinking it was seven, like in one for each day of
the week. But that keeps you in virgins for only a week, while 72 provides
a 10 week, 2 day supply.

But you're dead, so we're talking eternity here. Is there much difference
between one week and 10 weeks when you're stuck somewhere for eternity?
Wouldn't you have to put some pretty severe rationing on virgin use?

Geez so many questions!

I'm gonna have to rethink this suicide bombing stuff all over again!


SMH

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:16:58 -0500, Stephen Harding wrote:

B2431 wrote:

I am the "despicable mysogynist" who asked the question. The question is valid
and still stands. One of the rewards frequently cited for martyrs is the 72
virgins. I never said the virgins the female martyrs would get were also
female.

*Seventy-two* virgins??!!!

For some reason, I was thinking it was seven, like in one for each day of
the week. But that keeps you in virgins for only a week, while 72 provides
a 10 week, 2 day supply.

But you're dead, so we're talking eternity here. Is there much difference
between one week and 10 weeks when you're stuck somewhere for eternity?
Wouldn't you have to put some pretty severe rationing on virgin use?

Geez so many questions!

I'm gonna have to rethink this suicide bombing stuff all over again!


SMH


Living with 72 women would meet my definition of hell, but I think that
they were speaking of heaven?

Al Minyard

Islam makes Scientology look sane by comparison.

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Scott
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The French, God bless them, are finally joining the war against Islamic
extremism. Their targets, which will now confront the full force of
l'état, are schoolgirls who wear Muslim head scarves in French public
schools.
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"B2431" wrote in message
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From: Cub Driver


On an earlier thread, some despicable mysogynist wondered whether a
female suicide bomber got the 72 virgins issued to martyrs in heaven,

I am the "despicable mysogynist" who asked the question. The question is
valid
and still stands. One of the rewards frequently cited for martyrs is the
72
virgins. I never said the virgins the female martyrs would get were also
female.


I wouldn't worry too much about it -

Die Syro-Aramaische Lesart des Koran, available only in German, came out
just over a year ago, but has already had an enthusiastic reception,
particularly among those scholars with a knowledge of several Semitic
languages at Princeton, Yale, Berlin, Potsdam, Erlangen, Aix-en-Provence,
and the Oriental Institute in Beirut.
Luxenberg tries to show that many obscurities of the Koran disappear if we
read certain words as being Syriac and not Arabic. We cannot go into the
technical details of his methodology but it allows Luxenberg, to the
probable horror of all Muslim males dreaming of sexual bliss in the Muslim
hereafter, to conjure away the wide-eyed houris promised to the faithful in
suras XLIV.54; LII.20, LV.72, and LVI.22. Luxenberg 's new analysis, leaning
on the Hymns of Ephrem the Syrian, yields "white raisins" of "crystal
clarity" rather than doe-eyed, and ever willing virgins - the houris.
Luxenberg claims that the context makes it clear that it is food and drink
that is being offerred, and not unsullied maidens or houris.

In Syriac, the word hur is a feminine plural adjective meaning white, with
the word "raisin" understood implicitly. Similarly, the immortal, pearl-like
ephebes or youths of suras such as LXXVI.19 are really a misreading of a
Syriac expression meaning chilled raisins (or drinks) that the just will
have the pleasure of tasting in contrast to the boiling drinks promised the
unfaithful and damned.

As Luxenberg's work has only recently been published we must await its
scholarly assessment before we can pass any judgements. But if his analysis
is correct then suicide bombers, or rather prospective martyrs, would do
well to abandon their culture of death, and instead concentrate on getting
laid 72 times in this world, unless of course they would really prefer
chilled or white raisins, according to their taste, in the next.

Cub Driver wrote in message . ..
female suicide bomber got the 72 virgins issued to martyrs in heaven,

Actually, this is one of those things that have been nagging at me for
a bit. Gender details aside, what good is an eternity in the company
of 72 virgins? I mean, think about it, if you refrain from the implied
x-rated activities, you're basically surrounded for all eternity by 72
members of the opposite sex, all but guaranteed to engage in
continuous "girly talk" (don't know a word for the male equivalent,
but it must be just as bad if you're a woman), and all you can do
watch and be bored and tempted at the same time. Not much of a reward,
if you ask me. On the other hand, if the x-rated activities do occur,
even 72 of them aren't going to last very long as virgins, given that
you've got all of eternity to work with.
Am I the only one who can't make sense of this?

Rob

Rob van Riel wrote:

Cub Driver wrote in message . ..

female suicide bomber got the 72 virgins issued to martyrs in heaven,


Actually, this is one of those things that have been nagging at me for
a bit. Gender details aside, what good is an eternity in the company
of 72 virgins? I mean, think about it, if you refrain from the implied
x-rated activities, you're basically surrounded for all eternity by 72
members of the opposite sex, all but guaranteed to engage in
continuous "girly talk" (don't know a word for the male equivalent,
but it must be just as bad if you're a woman), and all you can do
watch and be bored and tempted at the same time. Not much of a reward,
if you ask me. On the other hand, if the x-rated activities do occur,
even 72 of them aren't going to last very long as virgins, given that
you've got all of eternity to work with.
Am I the only one who can't make sense of this?

My sentiments exactly Rob!

I lived in Cameroon for a time, and I was told (on very good authority)
that the best number of wives to have was three.

If you have one wife, you get nagged by her. If you have two, you get
two women nagging you.

But if you have three, there will always be one that will take your
side of a disagreement, and the women will end up arguing among themselves,
leaving you, the husband, in peace.

Now this may hold true for 72 virgins as well, but I would think by then,
the raucousness of disagreement would become too terrible to bear.

Yes, Cameroon had a very male dominated society!


SMH

"Stephen Harding" wrote in message
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Rob van Riel wrote:

Cub Driver wrote in message
. ..

female suicide bomber got the 72 virgins issued to martyrs in heaven,


Actually, this is one of those things that have been nagging at me for
a bit. Gender details aside, what good is an eternity in the company
of 72 virgins? I mean, think about it, if you refrain from the implied
x-rated activities, you're basically surrounded for all eternity by 72
members of the opposite sex, all but guaranteed to engage in
continuous "girly talk" (don't know a word for the male equivalent,
but it must be just as bad if you're a woman), and all you can do
watch and be bored and tempted at the same time. Not much of a reward,
if you ask me. On the other hand, if the x-rated activities do occur,
even 72 of them aren't going to last very long as virgins, given that
you've got all of eternity to work with.
Am I the only one who can't make sense of this?

My sentiments exactly Rob!

I lived in Cameroon for a time, and I was told (on very good authority)
that the best number of wives to have was three.

If you have one wife, you get nagged by her. If you have two, you get
two women nagging you.

But if you have three, there will always be one that will take your
side of a disagreement, and the women will end up arguing among
themselves,
leaving you, the husband, in peace.

Now this may hold true for 72 virgins as well, but I would think by then,
the raucousness of disagreement would become too terrible to bear.

Yes, Cameroon had a very male dominated society!


SMH

Reminds of a tour I made of Hampton Court, many years ago. The guide was
talking about King Henry the 8th who had six wives ! and he quoted, one for
each day of the week and a bit of peace on Sunday !

BMC

It doesn't say "...72 virgins...", it says "...a 72-year-old virgin...."

Gosh, all along I thought it was 72 Virginians.

The female suicide bomber approach sounds to me like some sicko guy's way of of
getting a real piece of ass.