1952 newsreel- latest futuristic and experimental aircraft

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in news:kZFvj.4711$Sa1.756
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William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil
I do love those old 1950's era newsreels, especially about
aviation. They seem so full of optimism and enthusiasm for
general aviation... there seemed to be so much promise.
Sort of bittersweet to see not only how far we've come but
what it cost. Today its Big Green Government... they've
taken over every free endeavor including general aviation.

"If you can't tax it then regulate it, if you can't regulate it
then file a lawsuit against it."

Nah, there's more going on in GA than there has been for years.
LSA's, high performance machines like the RVs, and homebuilts in
space!

Bertie
maybe, but its not really promoted in the media.

And thank god for that!

And Lord help
you if somebody gets hurt, theres an army of lawyers waiting
to cash in.

True.. I know exaclty what you mean about the enthusiasm and the feeling
that there was in those days, though. In the thirties pilots ( famous
ones) were like rock stars. Every minute of every record setting flight
was followed by the world, the air races were packed and every schoolboy
knew the names and stats of every racer, pilot and airplane. In the
fifties all these new amazing contraptions were being built. Imagine,
less than twenty years between the Boeing 247 and the 707. Biplane
fighter to F102 as well. Vertical takeoff weirness of all description.
Cool.

Yup. Those were the good ol' days. When I was a kid in the sixties
I read every book in the library about space flight, aircraft and
aviation technology (and history). Things are different today and I
think our tendency toward risk aversion, litigation and regulation
has taken alot of fun and excitement out of it for the younger
generations. Too bad... maybe one day the pendulum will swing back in
the other direction.

On Feb 22, 3:08*pm, kontiki wrote:
William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. *That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

Wil

I do love those old 1950's era newsreels, especially about
aviation. They seem so full of optimism and enthusiasm for
general aviation... there seemed to be so much promise.
Sort of bittersweet to see not only how far we've come but
what it cost. Today its Big Green Government... they've
taken over every free endeavor including general aviation.

"If you can't tax it then regulate it, if you can't regulate it
then file a lawsuit against it."

I know what you mean. Sometimes I wish I was born during those
periods. Those were the days when men were men.

Wil

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT hecilopter. I didn't
see a tail rotor.

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"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote in
news:802280d2f59d1@uwe:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT hecilopter. I
didn't see a tail rotor.


Jet tip.

Bertie

On Feb 22, 6:54*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote innews:802280d2f59d1@uwe:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. *That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT hecilopter. I
didn't see a tail rotor.

Jet tip.

Bertie

Yeah there are several tip jet helicopters out there, The Atlas uses
hydrogen peroxide tip jets (steam).

http://www.advancedtechnologiesinc.c...raft_atlas.asp

The Hiller Hornet uses small karosene burning jet engines at the tips.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...rs/q0141.shtml

The Djinn uses bleed air from a turbine engine I believe.

http://www.aero-news.net/SpecialCont...9cba87a3&cat=7

Looks like that big beast at the end also uses blreed air from those
four turbines mounted on the fuselage.

Wil

On Feb 23, 8:11*am, William Hung wrote:
On Feb 22, 6:54*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote innews:802280d2f59d1@uwe:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. *That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT hecilopter. I
didn't see a tail rotor.

Jet tip.

Bertie

Yeah there are several tip jet helicopters out there, The Atlas uses
hydrogen peroxide tip jets (steam).

http://www.advancedtechnologiesinc.c...raft_atlas.asp

The Hiller Hornet uses small karosene burning jet engines at the tips.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...rs/q0141.shtml

The Djinn uses bleed air from a turbine engine I believe.

http://www.aero-news.net/SpecialCont...kID=954d5715-5...

Looks like that big beast at the end also uses blreed air from those
four turbines mounted on the fuselage.

Wil- Hide quoted text -

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Upon further investigation, that big beast at the end does use tip
jets, but it also has a TAIL ROTOR!

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Wil

William Hung wrote in
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On Feb 23, 8:11*am, William Hung wrote:
On Feb 22, 6:54*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote
innews:802280d2f59d1@uwe:


William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. *That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee,
maybe even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT
hecilopter. I didn't see a tail rotor.

Jet tip.

Bertie

Yeah there are several tip jet helicopters out there, The Atlas uses
hydrogen peroxide tip jets (steam).

http://www.advancedtechnologiesinc.c...raft_atlas.asp

The Hiller Hornet uses small karosene burning jet engines at the
tips.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...rs/q0141.shtml

The Djinn uses bleed air from a turbine engine I believe.

http://www.aero-news.net/SpecialCont...ckID=954d5715-
5.
..


Looks like that big beast at the end also uses blreed air from those
four turbines mounted on the fuselage.

Wil- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Upon further investigation, that big beast at the end does use tip
jets, but it also has a TAIL ROTOR!


Well, it would still need one for manuevering even if it weren't
required for torque. A lot of the other jet tip ones relied on a certain
amount of forward motion to stabilise the yaw axis, but that one is
obviusly meant for heavy lifting and would need to manuever around to do
it;'s job. The little guys were all almost ultralights IIRC. The hiller
jet tip was single place, I beleive.

Bertie

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:42:46 -0800 (PST), William Hung
wrote:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

In a word... NO.

In an interview with designer, he described it as "marginally
controllable.

Now the Cri-Cri, mentioned elsewhere in this thread, THAT'S an
airplane I'd love to fly!

-Dana

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