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Old May 4th 08, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
noel.wade
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I wrote a nice response but can't seem to post it... I'll keep
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Old May 4th 08, 07:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony Verhulst
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sisu1a wrote:
On May 4, 6:57 am, Tony Verhulst wrote:
Bill Daniels wrote:
... There's a
whole hobby of building realistic cockpits to go with this simulator.

Would those hobbyists have web sites?

Tony V


Here's one for starters: (major link reconstruction needed; not a
glider cockpit, but...)
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DG



My club has an L23 fuselage wreck and we're in the planning stage of
chopping off all abaft the rear cockpit, hooking the controls up to
Condor (or something similar) and projecting local scenery on screens
around the cockpit. Something like Cambridge (UK) has done.

Tony V.
http://soargbsc.com
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Old May 4th 08, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bill Daniels
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Hey, Paul

If you get that pitot/static airdata air pump thingy working, I'd like to
hear about it. It would be a really great way to learn to use a new
vario/flight computer.

Bill D

"sisu1a" wrote in message
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On May 4, 6:57 am, Tony Verhulst wrote:
Bill Daniels wrote:
... There's a
whole hobby of building realistic cockpits to go with this simulator.


Would those hobbyists have web sites?

Tony V


Here's one for starters: (major link reconstruction needed; not a
glider cockpit, but...)
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DG

I have been working on a related project, to use one's own sailplane
as a cockpit for a simulator, with one's own instruments/controls.
What I am designing is a piece of hardware that will generate the
associated dynamic/static/TE/and capacity pressure values that would
exist during "in flight" conditions (Condor outputs standard sim
signals which could easily be translated into their associated
pressure values). These pressures can be fed to an actual instrument
panel, making the instruments read correct for their given simulated
condition quite effectively. Since Condor also outputs NEMA data,
flight computers/nav hardware can also be active. This will be used in
conjunction with little (sugar cube sized) independent self powered
pizeo gyros with bluetooth (or some other sort of RF) transmitting
capabilities that would each be placed on the extremities of all the
cockpit controls. The transmitted signals would all be received by a
device that would be converting the gyro's movements into standard
simulator control inputs that would be fed back into Condor for your
flight inputs.

To make clear my project goals in case it's still vague: I want to be
able to use my own glider with it's controls and instruments to fly on
the simulator. This wold be achieved by pulling the plane into the
"drive in theater" (a screen on a large wall with a projector set up)
and connect the pneumatic interface to my plane's pneumatic system and
put the pizeo gyros described above on their respective controls. Go
through a calibration sequence to define the full movements of the
controls, buckle in and begin checklist...Once this is closer to being
finished I will also work on the feedback issue, which I already have
several ideas. This glider in this setup could easily be changed to
another ship so long as flight data for it exists on Condor (very easy
if it already has a Winter quick pneumatic disconnect plug...) If
anyone that reads this finds it intriguing and would like to help, pm
me.

Paul



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Old May 4th 08, 07:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
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"Tony Verhulst" wrote in message
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Bill Daniels wrote:
... There's a whole hobby of building realistic cockpits to go with this
simulator.



Would those hobbyists have web sites?



There is a forum on the Condor web site devoted to "cockpit builders"

http://forum.condorsoaring.com/viewforum.php?f=14

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Old May 4th 08, 03:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Colin Field[_3_]
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On May 4, 7:37*am, "Bill Daniels" bildan@comcast-dot-net wrote:
"Paul Remde" wrote in message

news:OebTj.94761$TT4.38992@attbi_s22...


Hi,


I have finally added the Condor Competition Soaring Simulator for PC to my
web site. *You can see details he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/condor.htm


Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com



Looks good Paul- however, I notice that Condor's main page (which you
appear to have taken the text, photos and movies from) has not been
updated for a while. You may want to browse through the forum (which I
am a member of) and take a look at the new-style sceneries such as
Slovakia v3 and Alpi v3, which have had an incredible amount of work
put into them and nearly match the realism of the MSFS sceneries.
There's also a thread of Best Screenshots with some remarkable
pictures (realistic as well as crazy), and a fair few films on YouTube
showing people racing in multiplayer, or simply having fun. Have a
look he http://forum.condorsoaring.com

Plane Pack 2 is also being developed, which includes 3 2-seat gliders
implying that very soon we'll be able to fly 2-up, making way for a
multiplayer flight school or simply a mutual cross-country. There's a
lot of other features hinted at being in the pipeline including SLMGs
and even more advanced weather.

Keep up the great work!
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Old May 5th 08, 11:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Sergio
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On May 2, 10:09*am, Phillip LaBerge wrote:
Does anyone know of a good flight simulator program for a laptop? I
have several pre-solo students who are big in flight simulator
programs for powered airplanes and there seem to be a few programs on
the net for gliders. Any opinions on which one is the best would be
appreciated.
Phillip LaBerge



I've tried Microsoft, Silent Wings and a German one whose name I
forgot. Condor is by far the best, and getting better each day.
I use a force feedback joystick, pedals, a reclined seat in front of a
60" screen. It is almost like the real thing.
 




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