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Old May 5th 08, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Maxwell[_2_]
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Default Corn ethanol days are numbered


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On May 4, 4:43 am, Bob Noel
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:


Dumb question: Is this ethanol-laced gas a problem for newer small
engines? It doesn't seem to bother my motorcycle, lawnmower or
tug (aviation content)? Or have I just been lucky and don't have this
ethanol-laced junk around here in the Boston area?


I'm not sure if your gas in Boston has ethanol or not. In California
we are either 10% or 15% ethanol as I recall. Most new mowers in
California come with a fuel shutoff valve. The shutdown procedure is
to turn off the fuel valve and run the appliance until its out of gas.
That ensures that the carb is clear of fuel. In addition, we use
stablizers out here. It appears especially important for 2 stroke gas.
I use Stabil myself. I also put it in my boat and any car that doesn't
use its entire tank in 30 days.

-Robet

I'm beginning to wonder if the problem isn't more specific to brands or
types. I have asked a number of people about it, and get hot and cold
responses. Some say it's a serious problem, while many others say they
haven't even heard of it. My experience has even been mixed. I have had
problems with weed eaters, push mowers and a power washer but little else.
But I have a 14hp Kohler in use almost daily with no problems.


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Old May 5th 08, 05:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default Corn ethanol days are numbered

On May 4, 5:37*pm, "Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...


I'm beginning to wonder if the problem isn't more specific to brands or
types. I have asked a number of people about it, and get hot and cold
responses. Some say it's a serious problem, while many others say they
haven't even heard of it. My experience has even been mixed. I have had
problems with weed eaters, push mowers and a power washer *but little else.
But I have a 14hp Kohler in use almost daily with no problems.


The daily use is probably preventing problems. It sounds like the
problem is that the ethanol fuel attracks water as it sits and that
make it break down.

-robert
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Old May 7th 08, 06:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks
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"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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.. On May 4, 4:43 am, Bob Noel
wrote:
In article
,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:


Dumb question: Is this ethanol-laced gas a problem for newer small
engines? It doesn't seem to bother my motorcycle, lawnmower or
tug (aviation content)? Or have I just been lucky and don't have this
ethanol-laced junk around here in the Boston area?


I'm not sure if your gas in Boston has ethanol or not. In California
we are either 10% or 15% ethanol as I recall. Most new mowers in
California come with a fuel shutoff valve. The shutdown procedure is
to turn off the fuel valve and run the appliance until its out of gas.
That ensures that the carb is clear of fuel. In addition, we use
stablizers out here. It appears especially important for 2 stroke gas.
I use Stabil myself. I also put it in my boat and any car that doesn't
use its entire tank in 30 days.

-Robet

I'm beginning to wonder if the problem isn't more specific to brands
or types. I have asked a number of people about it, and get hot and
cold responses. Some say it's a serious problem, while many others say
they haven't even heard of it. My experience has even been mixed. I
have had problems with weed eaters, push mowers and a power washer
but little else. But I have a 14hp Kohler in use almost daily with no
problems.



It's because you're an okie fjukktard who doesn't know one end of an
engine from another.


Bertie



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Old May 4th 08, 03:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Maynard
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On 2008-05-04, Robert M. Gary wrote:
Its been great business for small engine shops. They can't keep up
with all the gooped up carbs from yard equipment that had this stuff
run through it. Never leave fuel with ethanol in an engine overnight,
always drain the fuel and run it until the carb is clear of fuel.


Hm. Our snowblower doesn't ahve this problem, but then it's only a few years
old, and it gets fuel stabilizer added when we think it's not going to be
run for a while.
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Old May 6th 08, 06:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...tj_AgD90EUHIO0


On May 3, 12:58 pm, M wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...?mod=googlenew...

To stop the insanity, there's nothing better than the hard reality.


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Old May 6th 08, 06:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
M[_1_]
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Default Corn ethanol days are numbered

On May 3, 12:58 pm, M wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...?mod=googlenew...

To stop the insanity, there's nothing better than the hard reality.



http://planetgore.nationalreview.com...Y0Nzc5ZDRlNjE=

Corn ethanol not only is bad for our airplanes, is really nothing
short of a homicidal binge of insanity.
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Old May 12th 08, 01:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Angelo Campanella
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M wrote:
Corn ethanol not only is bad for our airplanes, is really nothing
short of a homicidal binge of insanity.


As a society, we thought we had grown out of superstition and the Salem
witch trials , but that bug has re-emerged as a hydra (several heads):
Environmentalism, Political Correctness, The race isssues, Global
Warming and now Climate Change.

Henny Penny; "The SKY is falling!"

Angelo Campanella

 




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