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Old August 1st 08, 03:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Rocky Stevens
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On Jul 31, 10:54 pm, "ceaser28" u45176@uwe wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I am 23 years old and I have been convicted of 1 DUI for smelling like
alcohol pratically in New Hampshire, do I still have a shot at being a
commercial pilot?

--
Ceaser


Yes, you still have a shot, though as has been said, airlines do frown
upon this kind of thing. 1 DUI ain't too bad, though. Am I correct in
assuming that you haven't started training for your PPL yet? Because
you will need to report the DUIs when you apply for your third class
medical. In any event, I would suggest you join the AOPA; they are
very helpful when it comes to these kinds of questions. You can get a
free 6 month trial membership by going to http://flighttraining.aopa.org/.

Good luck!
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Old August 1st 08, 04:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ol Shy & Bashful
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On Jul 31, 9:54*pm, "ceaser28" u45176@uwe wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I am 23 years old and I have been convicted of 1 DUI for smelling like
alcohol pratically in New Hampshire, do I still have a shot at being a
commercial pilot?

--
Ceaser


Sure you do! Everyone makes it out to be a deal killer when it isn't.
If you do continue to exercise poor judgement and get busted again you
can kiss it goodbye as is true with any job requiring good judgement
and self discipline.
Geez ....some of the posters make it out to be like you are a
stumbling falling down commode hugging drunk and you should be
pilloried for ever allowing evil alcohol to touch your lips.
When you go for your FAA flight physical you'll have to admit the DUI
or face serious consequences down the road. In and of itself, a DUI is
simply a flag of stupidity or poor judgement. Additional ones
indicates a serious mental problem as in addiction and can prevent you
from getting the required flight physical.
Good luck and don't be stupid again??!!
Ol S&B
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Old August 1st 08, 05:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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On Jul 31, 9:54 pm, "ceaser28" u45176@uwe wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I am 23 years old and I have been convicted of 1 DUI for smelling like
alcohol pratically in New Hampshire, do I still have a shot at being a
commercial pilot?

--
Ceaser



The DUI may not prohibit your career as a commercial pilot, but the
inability to string together a coherent English sentence may have a bearing
on it.

Jim


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Old August 1st 08, 09:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
"RST Engineering" wrote:

The DUI may not prohibit your career as a commercial pilot, but the
inability to string together a coherent English sentence may have a bearing
on it.


Given the abilities of today's crop of students, I doubt the OP's writing skills
will significantly impact her ability to land a job.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

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Old August 1st 08, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ol Shy & Bashful
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On Aug 1, 3:50*pm, Bob Noel
wrote:
In article ,
*"RST Engineering" wrote:

The DUI may not prohibit your career as a commercial pilot, but the
inability to string together a coherent English sentence may have a bearing
on it.


Given the abilities of today's crop of students, I doubt the OP's writing skills
will significantly impact her ability to land a job.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)


Bob
AMEN!!!! And I see it daily with college grads ..... Pretty damned sad
if you ask my opinion.
Ol S&B
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Old August 1st 08, 10:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt[_5_]
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Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:

I doubt the OP's writing skills will significantly impact her

ability to land a job.

AMEN!!!! And I see it daily with college grads ..... Pretty damned sad
if you ask my opinion.


....he says, with four exclaimation points and a five-period ellipses. ;


I tend to avoid pessimism but it's pretty disheartening to hear a
college professor friend of mine tell about how every term he WARNS
students that he's going to check their term papers for internet
plagiarism, and yet invariably he has to fail students for turning in
something they downloaded from termpaper.com or whatever. All he does is
paste a couple of sentences into Google and he knows right away that the
student's a fraud.

Meanwhile, my wife just earned a human resources/business degree with a
4.0 GPA, had three internships had SIX scholarships--we didn't have to
pay a dime for her college because of her achievements--years of
experience as a system administrator, all kinds of field-related
volunteer work and a previous honors degree from UTD, a stack of
professional references and she can't start at a living wage in the
northwest now because she doesn't have enough "work experience."

The summer-job CFIs at the license mill across the runway start out at
more than what many four-year honors graduates with previous real-world
experience can hope to make.

Whatever. We're starting our own business. When the going gets weird...

-c
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Old August 2nd 08, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote

AMEN!!!! And I see it daily with college grads ..... Pretty damned sad
if you ask my opinion.

Someone, somewhere, needs to get some guts, and fix this problem, early.
Like in the 6th grade, or earlier.

If they can't read and write, they don't advance to the next grade, but
instead spend ALL of their time learning nothing BUT reading and writing.

Will it ever happen?

You guess.
--
Jim in NC


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Old August 2nd 08, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
buttman
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On Aug 1, 2:50*pm, Bob Noel
wrote:
In article ,
*"RST Engineering" wrote:

The DUI may not prohibit your career as a commercial pilot, but the
inability to string together a coherent English sentence may have a bearing
on it.


Given the abilities of today's crop of students, I doubt the OP's writing skills
will significantly impact her ability to land a job.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)


YOU DARN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN !!!!!!
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Old August 1st 08, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt[_5_]
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Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
On Jul 31, 9:54 pm, "ceaser28" u45176@uwe wrote:


Geez ....some of the posters make it out to be like you are a
stumbling falling down commode hugging drunk and you should be
pilloried for ever allowing evil alcohol to touch your lips.



I was thinking that if drinking misbehavior as a young adult was a
limiting factor in aviation, a whole hell of a lot of Navy and Marine
Corps veterans would never be allowed near an airplane. Pappy
Boyington, for example.

Lots of people make mistakes when they're young and immortal. Assuming
it was just a simple offense and not some sort of crime, the test of
character is going to be whether the behavior was curbed or allowed to
continue.


-c
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Old August 1st 08, 07:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Aug 1, 1:20*pm, gatt wrote:
Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:

On Jul 31, 9:54 pm, "ceaser28" u45176@uwe wrote:
Geez ....some of the posters make it out to be like you are a
stumbling falling down commode hugging drunk and you should be
pilloried for ever allowing evil alcohol to touch your lips.


I was thinking that if drinking misbehavior as a young adult was a
limiting factor in aviation, a whole hell of a lot of Navy and Marine
Corps veterans would never be allowed near an airplane. *Pappy
Boyington, for example.

Lots of people make mistakes when they're young and immortal. Assuming
it was just a simple offense and not some sort of crime, the test of
character is going to be whether the behavior was curbed or allowed to
continue.

-c


Consider this. You are a hiring authority, and you are examining the
paperwork of a number of prospects for a piloting job. Assume you've
done due dilligence so you know about the DUI, and further assume you
know it costs upwards of say $100,000 to take a new ATR pilot and
integrate him into your system.

You're making, in effect, a hundred thousand dollar bet on your
decision. Too many bad bets and your boss is not trust your judgement.
There is a small chance, of course, that one of the pilots you hire
will be involved in an accident, and you can be sure the hiring
criteria you used will be used by some lawyer to heap fault on your
airline. Are you going to be nice guy and give the kid a chance, or
are you going with an equally qualified applicant with a clean
record?

That is part of the reality in making hiring decisions. Guys and gals
who rise to the level where they are the decision makers on these
matters tend not to make rash decisions.
 




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