See and Avoid - Birds

sisu1a wrote:
In the video, it looks like he might have been able do it.

The key word in your post was 'might'. He also 'migh't have made it
to Teterboro, which too was rejected. The Hudson was the only sure
bet. At least if that plan went south it was only 155 people instead
of an entire neigborhood or urban block's worth as well...

-Paul
Agreed. That's why I put might in there It's just that I "practice"
this very thing on my Microsoft Flight Sim with a model of my Corben
Junior Ace (and the only thing that beats it to the ground after an
engine failure is an anvul) and have gotten somewhat proficient at it
now. Granted, it's only a sim and nobody dies if I screw up

Is there any statistics showing what the success rate of water landings is?

Scott

On Jan 19, 8:08*am, Andy wrote:

Why didn't he take immediate evasive action?

When you're driving, never swerve for small- to medium-sized wildlife.
Swerving may just take you through their altered vector, and is likely
to make you lose control. I imagine that flying an A320 is similar to
driving in this respect.

Sure, you're not going to spin out and take a trip through the weeds
(unless you're flying an Airbus and break the vertical fin off, that
is). But thrashing a bunch of folks around the cabin is not likely to
add much to the situation, and is likely to be counterproductive if
you happen to need the passengers' cooperation in order to conduct an
orderly evacuation.

On Jan 19, 6:21*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Jan 19, 8:08*am, Andy wrote:

Why didn't he take immediate evasive action?

When you're driving, never swerve for small- to medium-sized wildlife.
Swerving may just take you through their altered vector, and is likely
to make you lose control. I imagine that flying an A320 is similar to
driving in this respect.

Sure, you're not going to spin out and take a trip through the weeds
(unless you're flying an Airbus and break the vertical fin off, that
is). But thrashing a bunch of folks around the cabin is not likely to
add much to the situation, and is likely to be counterproductive if
you happen to need the passengers' cooperation in order to conduct an
orderly evacuation.


We have had Canada Geese VERY close (few ft) several times just after
liftoff, while towing in Colorado, which REALLY came to mind when I
watched all the rescue efforts of the Airbus. I figure a 10-15 lb
bird would play havoc with a tow plane prop or a glider. Elk on the
runway are a problem, too. I carry a small airhorn (like a person
might have in a boat or at a ball game) in my glider in case the elk
wander onto the runway in the evening while I'm landing. Not sure how
effective it might be, but they DO react to noise and run. A 1200 lb
elk on the ground would be equally devastating as a 15 lb goose at 50
ft.to my Ventus. Any kind of wildlife and moving vehicles (including
aircraft) just don't mix very well.