Taiwanese Dam Strike Old News...

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snip more of Arndt's unsupported fantasies


The reason for the 'bouncing bomb' was surely that it was the ony way
that a large charge could be placed accurately.

There are at least half a dozen different guidence methods in service
in various types of missile that can achieve 1 meter accuracy.
Maverick, Martel, the old Condor, Raptor, SLAMER differential GPS, TV
with or without man in the loop etc. All that is needed is to 'super
size' them. An extraction of a MOAB sized weapon from a C130 being
one option.

A C-130 penetrating 1400 miles of PRC airspace and delivering a MOAB,
huh?
Get a grip. And doesn't "differential GPS" require both quite a bit of
time
and some post-processing?

The MOAB launch vehicle and system is what is interesting. Taiwan I
expect does have C130s and this suggests that extracting a 10 ton
missile by parachute from a cargo plane is possible. Perhaps 20 tons
is possible from a C130?

Neither "missile" would be capable of breaching TG. For gosh sakes, people,
TG is a friggin' GRAVITY dam--its a large concrete monolith! Folks keep
comparing this to the Ruhr dams--but weren't they *arch* dams? One hell of a
difference between the cross sectional depth of an arch structure and that
of a gravity structure. Again, get a grip on reality.


MOAB is a freefall device. I would envisage a missile more akin to
either skybolt or blue steel to give the necessary standoff
capabillity.

Great, now you have a standoff capability with a puny warhead that can't do
anymore than scab the concrete.



And doesn't "differential GPS" require both quite a bit of time
and some post-processing

It only needs to update and calibrate an inertial platform.

No, I believe you are talking about two different things. Differential GPS
is the process used by surveyors to acheive sub-meter (centimeter?) level
accuracy, and it requires positioning of ground transponders and some degree
of post processing support.



One advanced version of SCUD has a TV guidence system to reduce the
accruacy to well below 50 meters. (Using a trident missile for this
sort of business with a penetrating warhead is another option)

Taiwan has neither Scuds not Tridents. Scud lacks enough of a warhead,
too.


In WW2 apart from the fact that the carrier aircraft were impossibly
vulnerable

And a C-130 lumbering through PLA and PLAAF defended territory would not
be?!

Yes, well rather a lot of standoff capability would be needed.

Again, you trade standoff for warhead load; acheiveing standoff means you
are not going to have enough whumpf! to do the job against a monolithic
concrete gravity dam of the size of TG.

Brooks

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"Kevin Brooks" wrote:

Neither "missile" would be capable of breaching TG. For gosh sakes, people,
TG is a friggin' GRAVITY dam--its a large concrete monolith! Folks keep
comparing this to the Ruhr dams--but weren't they *arch* dams?

Nope. They were arch-*shaped*, but the Moehne and Eder were gravity
dams.

Oddly enough, the RAF officers who thought the mission wouldn't work in
1943 were saying pretty much the same things you're saying now. "The
bombs aren't big enough, you can't put them in place, the risk isn't
worth it..."

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