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Old July 12th 09, 01:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Franklin[_7_]
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Default I would not have thought this was possible

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:16:33 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Franklin wrote:

Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Ron Garret wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZiP4...eature=related

And indeed, it's fake. Bummer.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/onewing.asp

rg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a jet
engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake..


Actually, I was under the impression that the sucked-into-jet-engine
video was real. It's certainly plausible.


Then you were a fool.

Even the one-wing landing video requires fairly close inspection to show
that it's a fake. It's quite well done IMHO.

rg


Amateur hour. You need to see my aerobatic films.
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Old July 12th 09, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jeff Lin Ton
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Default I would not have thought this was possible

Franklin "Franklin wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:16:33 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Franklin wrote:

Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Ron Garret wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZiP4...eature=related

And indeed, it's fake. Bummer.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/onewing.asp

rg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at
a jet engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake..


Actually, I was under the impression that the sucked-into-jet-engine
video was real. It's certainly plausible.


Then you were a fool.

Even the one-wing landing video requires fairly close inspection to
show that it's a fake. It's quite well done IMHO.

rg


Amateur hour. You need to see my aerobatic films.


Hello I'm Jeff. My cousin has let me use his PC.

The best fakes I've seen are your posts.
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Old July 12th 09, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Garret
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Default I would not have thought this was possible

In article ,
Franklin "Franklin wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:16:33 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Franklin wrote:

Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Ron Garret wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZiP4...eature=related

And indeed, it's fake. Bummer.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/onewing.asp

rg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a jet
engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake..


Actually, I was under the impression that the sucked-into-jet-engine
video was real. It's certainly plausible.


Then you were a fool.


Could be. But I'd be in good company. The consensus around the net
seems to be that that clip is in fact real.

Even the one-wing landing video requires fairly close inspection to show
that it's a fake. It's quite well done IMHO.

rg


Amateur hour. You need to see my aerobatic films.


That presents a logistical challenge since you posted semi-anonymously,
and Jimmy Franklin is dead so you're probably not him. So who the ****
are you, and where are we supposed to go to see your aerobatic films?

rg
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Old July 11th 09, 11:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary Mishler[_2_]
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Default I would not have thought this was possible


"Franklin" wrote in message
...
Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Ron Garret wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZiP4...eature=related


And indeed, it's fake. Bummer.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/onewing.asp

rg




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a jet
engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake..


It's REAL.


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Old July 13th 09, 02:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ricky
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On Jul 11, 11:23*am, Franklin wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a jet
engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake..


"Franklin," why don't explain and entertain us with your theory behind
this being a fake.

How does "looking at a jet engine for 2 seconds" convince one to
believe this accident
was a fake?

Franklin, the serviceman being sucked into the jet on-deck was real,
very, very real.

Ricky

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Old July 13th 09, 12:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Franklin[_8_]
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Default I would not have thought this was possible

Ricky wrote:

On Jul 11, 11:23*am, Franklin wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a
jet engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake.


"Franklin," why don't explain and entertain us with your theory behind
this being a fake.

How does "looking at a jet engine for 2 seconds" convince one to
believe this accident
was a fake?

Franklin, the serviceman being sucked into the jet on-deck was real,
very, very real.

Ricky


Hello sock. Why doesn't your organ grinder ask the questions rather
than use his monkey?

For me, it's too amazing that a guy working next to an Intruder gets
sucked into one of its intakes with such massive force that it dragged
him off the ground but afterwards he doesn't have any crush damage from
jamming between the bullet cone and cowling and doesn't look like he
been squeezed hard up against the stator vanes.

http://www.imageno.com/k3bfdhgc73i0pic.html
http://images.marketworks.com/hi/72/72196/KL37C03.jpg


Maybe he's supposed to have squeezed through the low bypass compressor
bleed channel to come out unscathed. Heh heh! Let's have that 2 second
look at what those J52s on an Intruder really looks like ...

http://www.imageno.com/pyopisgsihhtpic.html


OK, so what passed through the engine to cause the rear flash in the
vid? If anything solid went through that turbofan there'd likely be a
blade-out which looks very different to the brief flare out in the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcALjMJbAvU


The vid shows our hero posing for a photo only hours afterwards. No
shock, no crushed shoulders, no broken ribs, no split skull, no broken
nose. Seemed to me the vid showed the mannequin had a floppy thigh bone
but the guy looks fine afterwards, no bloodied clothing, no major
abrasions. ... Just an arm sling and a bandage for a head graze. Gimme
a break. He would be undergoing tests in ICU for the rest of the day
and may be the day after that as well.

A few hours afterwards he wouldn't be posing with his pals but he'd be
filling in incidence reports, the safety officer would be going berserk
and the carrier's senior officers would be doing some interviewing.

The vid's date is Feb 20 1991 but the quality looks like it's from the
1960s. Most vids from 1991 are in color. Try frame advancing the spoof
using this AVI rather than an FLV:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...s/sucked%20in%
20engine.avi


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Old July 13th 09, 02:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Gary Mishler[_2_]
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Default I would not have thought this was possible


"Franklin" wrote in message
...
Ricky wrote:

On Jul 11, 11:23 am, Franklin wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a
jet engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake.


"Franklin," why don't explain and entertain us with your theory behind
this being a fake.

How does "looking at a jet engine for 2 seconds" convince one to
believe this accident
was a fake?

Franklin, the serviceman being sucked into the jet on-deck was real,
very, very real.

Ricky


Hello sock. Why doesn't your organ grinder ask the questions rather
than use his monkey?

For me, it's too amazing that a guy working next to an Intruder gets
sucked into one of its intakes with such massive force that it dragged
him off the ground but afterwards he doesn't have any crush damage from
jamming between the bullet cone and cowling and doesn't look like he
been squeezed hard up against the stator vanes.

http://www.imageno.com/k3bfdhgc73i0pic.html
http://images.marketworks.com/hi/72/72196/KL37C03.jpg


Maybe he's supposed to have squeezed through the low bypass compressor
bleed channel to come out unscathed. Heh heh! Let's have that 2 second
look at what those J52s on an Intruder really looks like ...

http://www.imageno.com/pyopisgsihhtpic.html


OK, so what passed through the engine to cause the rear flash in the
vid? If anything solid went through that turbofan there'd likely be a
blade-out which looks very different to the brief flare out in the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcALjMJbAvU


The vid shows our hero posing for a photo only hours afterwards. No
shock, no crushed shoulders, no broken ribs, no split skull, no broken
nose. Seemed to me the vid showed the mannequin had a floppy thigh bone
but the guy looks fine afterwards, no bloodied clothing, no major
abrasions. ... Just an arm sling and a bandage for a head graze. Gimme
a break. He would be undergoing tests in ICU for the rest of the day
and may be the day after that as well.

A few hours afterwards he wouldn't be posing with his pals but he'd be
filling in incidence reports, the safety officer would be going berserk
and the carrier's senior officers would be doing some interviewing.

The vid's date is Feb 20 1991 but the quality looks like it's from the
1960s. Most vids from 1991 are in color. Try frame advancing the spoof
using this AVI rather than an FLV:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...s/sucked%20in%
20engine.avi


Certainly there are fake videos in the world. This one however is real. It
has been featured on network news magazines (Don't know if it was 60
Minuites, Nightline, or what). It also is used as a training film in the
military and most major airlines.
This one is real.


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Old July 13th 09, 04:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
D Ramapriya
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Default I would not have thought this was possible

On Jul 11, 10:23*pm, Franklin wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a jet
engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake..



Are you suggesting that the referred video was a fake - I think it
isn't - or that one can't at all be sucked into a jet engine? If the
latter, you might be wrong. I seem to remember a Continental mechanic
ending up inside one of their 737 turbines a few years ago (in
Texas?). And didn't a sucked luggage container at LAX delay a JAL 747
the other day? That container didn't go through the blades of course
but the human skeleton is less resistant to whirring fan blades.

No I think you can maim yourself if you're in the intake draft cone of
a turbine.

Ramapriya
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Old July 13th 09, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Terry Aardema
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Default I would not have thought this was possible

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:23:05 -0600, Franklin wrote:

Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Ron Garret wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZiP4...eature=related


And indeed, it's fake. Bummer.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/onewing.asp

rg




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a jet
engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake..



According to the Flight Safety Briefing I attended when I was still
working for the Canadian Armed Forces, this is indeed real; military jets
are not like civilian jets...

Terry
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Old July 14th 09, 12:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default I would not have thought this was possible

On Jul 13, 4:58*pm, "Terry Aardema" wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:23:05 -0600, Franklin wrote:
Ron Garret wrote:


In article ,
*Ron Garret wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZiP4...eature=related


And indeed, it's fake. *Bummer.


http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/onewing.asp


rg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4


Some people WANT to believe this even though they need only look at a jet
engine for 2 seconds to know it's fake..


According to the Flight Safety Briefing I attended when I was still *
working for the Canadian Armed Forces, this is indeed real; military jets *
are not like civilian jets...

Terry
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why are all you people arguing with this moron?
 




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