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  #192  
Old August 25th 05, 03:59 AM
Mike Rapoport
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Actually, it has almost nothing to do with the EPA. It is matter of cost and
time. You want your refinery near a large port and near a large market if
possible. Check out the price of a couple square miles of land in these
types of locations. It should preferably be safe from hurricanes.
Generally you couldn't even find a big enough piece of land in such a place.
If you build inland, you have to get a right of way for a pipeline from the
port. So real estate is a big part of the cost side. The time side is
permitting, design and then construction. Even if you had the land and
permitting today, it would be a long time before you were refining anything.

Refineries are like anything else, there are too many of them so nobody
builds any more. Eventually the market grows and there is a shortage. Then
everybody builds more and there is a glut again.

Mike
MU-2


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It's not crude price increases which are causing the increase in oil
industry profits lately. It's world demand for refined product (we have
to import actual gasoline now, too), and limited refinery capacity in
this country -- a supply-demand problem. The gov't could easily cause
refineries to be built with changes in environmental regulations, so the
cause of the "windfall profits" is essentially -- our gov't!


Well said.

We are dangerously low on refinery capacity, and current EPA regulations
make it essentially impossible to build any more in the U.S.

It's insane, but it's the law.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



  #193  
Old August 25th 05, 04:05 AM
Mike Rapoport
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It doesn't matter how desirable something is to someone who can't afford
it or how affordable something is to someone who doesn't want it, desire
and resources have to match. Aviation doesn't appeal to many of those
who can afford it.


WHY?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


The same reason that people have different favorite colors...personal
preference. I'm sure bungie jumpers can't understand why everyone doesn't
bungie jump either.

Mike
MU-2


  #194  
Old August 25th 05, 04:11 AM
George Patterson
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Jay Honeck wrote:

WHY?


Same reason some people are meat bombs and some are wuffos.

George Patterson
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use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
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Old August 25th 05, 04:12 AM
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote:
Actually, it has almost nothing to do with the EPA.
...
Refineries are like anything else, there are too many of
them so nobody builds any more.


I'm not an expert on this industry either, but do you have a source for
the above? Is the industry lying when they say that at peak demand,
refineries are generally at capacity?

Fred F.

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Old August 25th 05, 04:23 AM
George Patterson
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TaxSrv wrote:

Refineries are like anything else, there are too many of
them so nobody builds any more.


I'm not an expert on this industry either, but do you have a source for
the above? Is the industry lying when they say that at peak demand,
refineries are generally at capacity?


From what I've read, we are at a period of running at capacity. Which means
that we are getting close to a period in which (as Mike put it) "the market
grows and there is a shortage." Which will be followed by a period in which (as
Mike put it) "Then everybody builds more and there is a glut again."

George Patterson
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use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
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Old August 25th 05, 04:36 AM
Roger
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:36:04 -0700, "Seth Masia"
wrote:

Umm -- the definition of median is that half the range is higher and half is
lower. This means that if the median is $42,000, and there are 100 million
households, then 50 million households make more than $42k.


That sounds like an average rather than a median.
If you take the lowest number income to the highest and put them in
order the number in the middle would be the median.


In fact the average income is higher, because it's pulled up by the very
wealthy households making millions per year, and that's not offset by


That would pull the median up more than the average.
Average is the total income of all the households divided by the
number of households. One family making $500,000,000 against several
million in the $40,000 range would have little effect on the average
and a big hit on median.

households making negative income (we don't allow individuals to rack up
millions in debt -- only corporations). The mathematical average might be
around $60k or even higher.


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Jay Honeck wrote:

If I could do it, anyone can do it.


There are many people out there who should never get near an airplane
and many who are just not mentally or physically equipped to think in
three dimensions safely.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

  #198  
Old August 25th 05, 05:20 AM
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wrote in message
ups.com...

That's the objective. But the real outcome will be more old guys who are
scared they are going to loose their medicals.


That's going to be a major consitutuency of the Sport Pilot rule --
people with PP's and other advanced ratings who "retire" into LSAs.


Why do PP's have to retire into LSAs?

I have never quite understood why one would want the SP license (limiting
you to the lower gross-weight aircraft) over the *Recreational* license
which allows 180 hp 4 place aircraft (which I presume would include such
aircraft as the 2300 gross weight C172?)

Does not the Recreational, with a cross-country endorsement, give pretty
much everything the SP certificate gives, including the lesser medical
requirement?

Or did the onset of SP now remove the "recreational" license?








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Old August 25th 05, 05:44 AM
W P Dixon
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A recreational Pilot still has to have the medical.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Icebound" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...

That's the objective. But the real outcome will be more old guys who are
scared they are going to loose their medicals.


That's going to be a major consitutuency of the Sport Pilot rule --
people with PP's and other advanced ratings who "retire" into LSAs.


Why do PP's have to retire into LSAs?

I have never quite understood why one would want the SP license (limiting
you to the lower gross-weight aircraft) over the *Recreational* license
which allows 180 hp 4 place aircraft (which I presume would include such
aircraft as the 2300 gross weight C172?)

Does not the Recreational, with a cross-country endorsement, give pretty
much everything the SP certificate gives, including the lesser medical
requirement?

Or did the onset of SP now remove the "recreational" license?









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Old August 25th 05, 07:20 AM
Larry Dighera
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:03:15 GMT, George Patterson
wrote in DF9Pe.5727$Ck2.3269@trndny04::

Larry Dighera wrote:

Oh yeah. That was the year he was impeached, wasn't it.


Nixon was never impeached.


Right. It's been a while. After his Vice President was caught taking
bribe money, and Nixon with his henchmen burglarizing etc. he resigned
under threat of impeachment, so that he wouldn't further disgrace the
office.

 




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