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  #191  
Old September 2nd 05, 09:16 PM
Darrel Toepfer
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George Patterson wrote:

It keeps the government of the United States from sending the army in to
kill people and burn cities.


Buildings are on fire, orders to shoot to kill... hmmmm... What was your
point again? Oh wait its the weekend warriors, they aren't army...
  #192  
Old September 2nd 05, 09:18 PM
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Rephrase the question: what was added by Congress that wasn't in the
Administration's request?

"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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sfb wrote:

It would be interesting to where else in Louisiana the Corps has been
spending money recently.


Dredging, lots of dredging always going on, gotta keep the commerce
flowing... Lots of concern over the Old River structure in years past.
If it failed it could have been nearly or more catastrofic than
Katrina. The foundations of it have been the main cause, if a sink
hole would occur and wash under it...



  #193  
Old September 2nd 05, 09:51 PM
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In article ,
"W P Dixon" wrote:

Jay,
Can't we also say the same is true for the misguided souls who live in
trailer parks in the Midwest? What bright official deemed these things
livable? We don't call them tornado magnets for nothing. Most people in the
country would consider the kid with the big ears playing the banjo on
"Deliverance" to be smarter than people who live in trailers in the Midwest.


Forget trailers and tornadoes. Ever read about the New Madrid, MO
earthquakes in 1812? Made the 1906 San Francisco quake look quaint in
comparison. If that doesn't scare you off living in the midwest...
  #194  
Old September 2nd 05, 09:55 PM
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In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

"Morgans" wrote:

Hell, bring in the C-17's, and C-5A's and C-130's. Marshall law should have
been declared, all should have been driven out, and transportation provided
for those who needed it. Set up refugee camps at closed military bases, and
all could have lived much more comfortably than they are now.


This is one point I can't understand .... you (the USA) is able to invade a
country in a matter of 1 or 2 days (I don't want to argue about *that*
right now), bring thousands of soldiers from one side of the planet to the
other one ... but: aren't you able to bring several thousand of soldiers, a
carrier, etc. down to New Orleans? Let your troops do something useful.

#m


Actually it took about 6 months to get the soldiers in place for Iraq.
One commentator on NPR this morning cited the old maxim, "Amateurs
discuss strategy, professionals discuss logistics."
  #195  
Old September 2nd 05, 09:55 PM
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Thomas Borchert wrote:

Jay,


And now, for some aviation content: The looters in New Orleans are SHOOTING
at rescue helicopters!



Ah, isn't it a great country where everbody has the legal right to own guns?


Yes, it is. However, that don't have the right to shoot at helicopters.
Is this a difference too great for you to comprehend?

Matt
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Old September 2nd 05, 09:57 PM
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("John Clear" wrote)
A big earthquake will happen, but steps have been taken to minimize
the impact.



"A" big earthquake ....maybe.

"The" big earthquake ...not a chance in hell of reducing the impact.

It's like building a barn in Minnesota to withstand an F-5 tornado. Good
luck.

....or maybe there is a chance of surviving an F-5 tornado.
http://www.monolithicdome.com/
(cool site - many links)


Montblack

  #197  
Old September 2nd 05, 09:57 PM
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In article ,
Darrel Toepfer wrote:

Bob Noel wrote:

The National Guard is and they have yet to arrive in any quantity.


Talk to the state or governer. I was under the impression that Martin
was whining about the feds.


A good portion of the LA-NG is in Iraq...


Yes, about 25 to 30% if I remember the CNN report. That leaves quite a
few.
  #198  
Old September 2nd 05, 10:02 PM
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"Tom Fleischman" wrote in
message I'm gone...

Good riddance.



Well, at least some good has come out of this terrible disaster.


  #199  
Old September 2nd 05, 10:06 PM
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In article X9XRe.82236$084.46538@attbi_s22,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Next: The end of the west coast, since it is in an earthquake area.
Imagine Silicon Valley vanishing in a major quake...


Silicon Valley is another perfect example of human arrogance.

Hey -- wait -- I've got it! Let's build a 100 billion dollar
infrastructure on top of a major fault line!

And when (not if) it is destroyed, there will be people begging the Federal
Government to come rebuild it.


He who lives in glass houses...

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/fac...leston1895.gif

Shows the New Madrid fault seismic extends into Iowa.

To quote another page...

A major earthquake in this area (7.5 or greater) happens every 200-300
years (the last one in 1812). There is a 25% chance of such a disaster
by the year 2040. A New Madrid Fault rupture this size would be felt
throughout half the United States and damage expected in 20 states or
more. Missouri alone could anticipate losses of at least $6 billion (in
1990 dollars) from such an event.
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Old September 2nd 05, 10:42 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

On the other hand, as I understand it, welfare recipients now receive
government ATM cards, so perhaps they all don't receive money on "The
First" anymore?


How do you expect them to receive money when they are displaced? This is
the most logical method...

Local banks said many are in there asking how do they get their check.
I'm sure it goes into an account, somewhere...
 




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