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  #191  
Old January 1st 06, 05:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:0mCtf.38573$QW2.6919@dukeread08...
A proper burial?


From an ecological standpoint, totally wasteful... Recycling via gators is
preferable... If his friends and relatives don't know what happens to the
body, it's even better from a deterrence standpoint...


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Old January 1st 06, 05:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:OFCtf.38575$QW2.20198@dukeread08...
Cowboy boots and luggage


That's recycling... Of course, you gotta BBQ and eat the tail first...


  #193  
Old January 1st 06, 05:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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".Blueskies." wrote in message
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No, I say throw them in a dark hole and forget about them,
but to hunt down and kill them is living like the animal they
are. If we are truly civilized then we will not take an eye for
an eye, etc. Thou shalt not kill, remember?


Hell, I never claimed to be civilized... At least I never think I did... If
I did, I must have been drunk at the time...

Actually, I would prefer to have them drawn and quartered... But then again,
it's just so messy to clean up afterwards... Best to save that for just the
spammers...


  #194  
Old January 1st 06, 07:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:%lCtf.38572$QW2.24002@dukeread08...
Texas law is getting to be pretty reasonable, GWB signed the
first concealed carry law for the state and it has been
improved over the years.


Yeah, we're slowly throwing off the yoke of Yankee oppression left over from
the aftermath of the War of Northern Aggression...

In the past, a trip out of your home county did allow
being armed while traveling, but now you don't have
to be on a long trip.


Actually, the law was too ****in' vague and it allowed the liberal ass
prosecutors and cops to harass you... There was nothing about counties in
the law, it just said that you could use "travelling" as a defense... You
still could end up being arrested and having to hire a lawyer... The new law
doesn't make it that much better...

A vigilante looks for criminals and acts as judge, jury and
executioner.


So? If the criminal doesn't do a crime, they have nothing to worry about...

[Federal Gun Free School Zone is a free fire zone for the
insane and criminal, because the victims are expected to be
unarmed.]


Totally unconstitutional... Same as anything else that violates SHALL NOT BE
INFRINGED...

Never alter a crime scene, don't move any evidence, don't
drag the body inside, such actions make it appear that you
did something wrong or at least were not sure about what
happened and are trying to make yourself look better.


Awh, 'ell, Jim... Gators gotta eat too, ya' know?


  #195  
Old January 1st 06, 08:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I think the issue is whether the crime is in progress or you
are out doing S&D on known, supposed or possible criminals.

If you're out doing a vigilantly sweep of the streets and
see a crime in progress, say, two men and two women using
clubs, knives and guns, which people are the attackers and
which are the victims? What if they are each vigilantes who
assumed the other was a criminal and they are each getting
ready to feed the alligators?

If I am the target of an attack by a criminal, my actions
are clear and I know who started the attack. But unless I
see the entire crime, from beginning to the time I arrive on
the scene, how do I tell whether the people that appear to
be the attackers isn't the victim who has "turned the
tables" and is still defending their life? It should known
that even an attacker has the legal right to withdraw and
cease and at that point if you continue to attack them, you
may legally become the "attacker" and face criminal charges.
You have a right to make a citizens arrest and use such
force as is needed to do so safely, but you cannot use
deadly force unless necessary to protect yourself or
another. Best action, defend your self and others, and let
the criminal flee if they will do so. Give the cops a good
description and let the police do their job.

Laws vary from State to State and states amend the laws too.
But if you don't know the actual law in the area where you
live or travel, you are taking a big chance with your rights
and your life.


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"Grumman-581" wrote
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:%lCtf.38572$QW2.24002@dukeread08...
| Texas law is getting to be pretty reasonable, GWB signed
the
| first concealed carry law for the state and it has been
| improved over the years.
|
| Yeah, we're slowly throwing off the yoke of Yankee
oppression left over from
| the aftermath of the War of Northern Aggression...
|
| In the past, a trip out of your home county did allow
| being armed while traveling, but now you don't have
| to be on a long trip.
|
| Actually, the law was too ****in' vague and it allowed the
liberal ass
| prosecutors and cops to harass you... There was nothing
about counties in
| the law, it just said that you could use "travelling" as a
defense... You
| still could end up being arrested and having to hire a
lawyer... The new law
| doesn't make it that much better...
|
| A vigilante looks for criminals and acts as judge, jury
and
| executioner.
|
| So? If the criminal doesn't do a crime, they have nothing
to worry about...
|
| [Federal Gun Free School Zone is a free fire zone for
the
| insane and criminal, because the victims are expected to
be
| unarmed.]
|
| Totally unconstitutional... Same as anything else that
violates SHALL NOT BE
| INFRINGED...
|
| Never alter a crime scene, don't move any evidence,
don't
| drag the body inside, such actions make it appear that
you
| did something wrong or at least were not sure about what
| happened and are trying to make yourself look better.
|
| Awh, 'ell, Jim... Gators gotta eat too, ya' know?
|
|


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Old January 1st 06, 05:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Macklin wrote:
It isn't illegal anywhere in the USA, but since it gives
power to the jury and the political bosses, want their "fair
trials" to have the desired result, any juror who knows of
or speaks about the term, let alone knows about jury
nullification will be excluded.


No, it is illegal in New Jersey. The Jersey law stems from a particularly
viscious murder case in the late 80s. The State asked for the death penalty and
one juror made up his mind ahead of time that he was not going to vote to
convict because he had strong feelings about the death penalty. That resulted in
a hung jury and a retrial. The State could not ask for the death penalty at the
second trial (that would be double jeopardy).

The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and
you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned about this during jury
selection.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.
  #197  
Old January 1st 06, 05:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Montblack wrote:

What's the proper way to bury a well fed gator?


In a handbag factory.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.
  #198  
Old January 1st 06, 09:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned about this during jury selection.

Try =what= in New Jersey?

Jose
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Old January 1st 06, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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That law is probably unconstitutional. If a juror makes up
their mind before a trial, then that is a violation of the
duty of a juror. But if during a trial, the evidence
presented leads a juror to decide that the law or its
application in the case is wrong, a juror can vote any way
they want.

Seems that the case you cited was poorly tried and the jury
not screened well enough by the state.


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The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"George Patterson" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
| It isn't illegal anywhere in the USA, but since it gives
| power to the jury and the political bosses, want their
"fair
| trials" to have the desired result, any juror who knows
of
| or speaks about the term, let alone knows about jury
| nullification will be excluded.
|
| No, it is illegal in New Jersey. The Jersey law stems from
a particularly
| viscious murder case in the late 80s. The State asked for
the death penalty and
| one juror made up his mind ahead of time that he was not
going to vote to
| convict because he had strong feelings about the death
penalty. That resulted in
| a hung jury and a retrial. The State could not ask for the
death penalty at the
| second trial (that would be double jeopardy).
|
| The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it
again in New Jersey, and
| you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned
about this during jury
| selection.
|
| George Patterson
| Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by
rights belong to
| your slightly older self.


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Old January 2nd 06, 01:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message ...
The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and you will spend a few years
in prison. You will be warned about this during jury selection.


Try =what= in New Jersey?


A juror ADMITTING that he had made up his mind before the trial


 




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