Angry

The big problem with receipts is that they can be used for selling votes.

That's a "big" problem?

Uh... I think it would be. Another problem is anonymity. The voter
will either take the paper home (where it appears eventually in his
trash) or he leaves it at the site (along with his fingerprints). A
sufficiently clever and motivated opponent (personal or otherwise) could
make use of this information.

In any case, the issue is whether or not the vote the voter =thinks= is
cast, is =actually= the vote that gets counted. This is independent of
paper receipts to the voter.

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
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In any case, the issue is whether or not the vote the voter =thinks= is
cast, is =actually= the vote that gets counted. This is independent of
paper receipts to the voter.

Agreed. My point is (still) that giving the vote a receipt isn't going to
affect the issue of vote selling very much. There's not much to prevent
vote selling now, other than the risk of being found out, as it is now.
Handing a receipt to a voter isn't going to shift the problem much, given
how wide open it already is.

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:53:19 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in
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At any rate, what a
president does in his private life, as long as it's not criminal,
unconstitutional and has no affect on his sworn duties, is no ones
business but his.


What Clinton did in his private life was never an issue.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think Clinton was a virtuous president.
And if Clinton's amoral behavior was conducted during business hours,
you have a valid point. I hadn't thought of it that way.

There's not much to prevent
vote selling now, other than the risk of being found out

Well, the receipt makes the vote you sold verifiable without going the
absentee ballot route.

Jose
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And if Clinton's amoral behavior was conducted during business hours,
you have a valid point.

What are the president's business hours? (pre-W)

Jose
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"Sylvain" wrote in message
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how many people died as a consequence?


Were you trying to make a point?

"Jose" wrote in message
. ..
Well, the receipt makes the vote you sold verifiable without going the
absentee ballot route.

So? It's not like "going the absentee ballot route" is the least bit
challenging. If anything, it's slightly easier for the vote seller, because
they don't actually have to go to the polls. Just get the absentee ballot,
sign it, sell it.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Were you trying to make a point?

yes. but there is no point in explaining it if
you do not want to understand it.

--Sylvain

Receipts will be a sea change for vote selling. It doesn't happen much
now because it is all risk no reward to the buyer who has no way of
knowing how the seller actually voted. A receipt removes all risk
guaranteeing the buyer gets what they paid for.

Without receipts, the buyer has to seek out voters in advance. With
receipts, the buyer just stands outside the polling place and buys a
sure thing after the vote is cast.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Jose" wrote in message
...
In any case, the issue is whether or not the vote the voter =thinks=
is cast, is =actually= the vote that gets counted. This is
independent of paper receipts to the voter.

Agreed. My point is (still) that giving the vote a receipt isn't
going to affect the issue of vote selling very much. There's not much
to prevent vote selling now, other than the risk of being found out,
as it is now. Handing a receipt to a voter isn't going to shift the
problem much, given how wide open it already is.

("Tom Conner" wrote)
Apparently, Clinton isn't the only liar.

Some parts of this glurge about Edgar Joseph "Easy Eddie" O'Hare (also
known as EJ) and his son, Edward Henry "Butch" O'Hare, are true, if
exaggerated in the presentation above. The senior O'Hare provided legal
services to Al Capone and later helped the government bring that.........


Tom,

That dog won't hunt.


"Montblack"