limit of trim = limit of travel?

dave hillstrom wrote in
:

On 09 May 2008 23:06:49 GMT, gregvk wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:g02kb9$p2k$1
:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I note that this thread started with one or two useful answers,


Useful how? You don;t fly so you can't use them.


then
degenerated into an argument among "pilots" who manifestly didn't
actually know how anything worked, and has now further degenerated
info a flame war among a few angry young males. Along the way it
picked up a lot of bizarre crossposting, which I've removed on this
reply.

That's OK,. I';lll put them back.


Bertie

Why does he assume every poster is an angry young male?

im an angry middle aged male. im CLEALY in a separate demographic.


Are you sure that by trying to be differnt you're not actually becoming
more the same?


Bertie

On Fri, 09 May 2008 22:59:22 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
dave hillstrom got double secret probation for
writing:

On 09 May 2008 23:06:49 GMT, gregvk wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:g02kb9$p2k$1
:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I note that this thread started with one or two useful answers,


Useful how? You don;t fly so you can't use them.


then
degenerated into an argument among "pilots" who manifestly didn't
actually know how anything worked, and has now further degenerated
info a flame war among a few angry young males. Along the way it
picked up a lot of bizarre crossposting, which I've removed on this
reply.

That's OK,. I';lll put them back.


Bertie

Why does he assume every poster is an angry young male?

im an angry middle aged male. im CLEALY in a separate demographic.

bejebus, iffen yer middle age what the hell does that make me, kid?


--

A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz
Accept No Substitute

On Fri, 09 May 2008 20:16:11 -0700, Aratzio
wrote:

On Fri, 09 May 2008 22:59:22 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
dave hillstrom got double secret probation for
writing:

On 09 May 2008 23:06:49 GMT, gregvk wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:g02kb9$p2k$1
:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I note that this thread started with one or two useful answers,


Useful how? You don;t fly so you can't use them.


then
degenerated into an argument among "pilots" who manifestly didn't
actually know how anything worked, and has now further degenerated
info a flame war among a few angry young males. Along the way it
picked up a lot of bizarre crossposting, which I've removed on this
reply.

That's OK,. I';lll put them back.


Bertie

Why does he assume every poster is an angry young male?

im an angry middle aged male. im CLEALY in a separate demographic.

bejebus, iffen yer middle age what the hell does that make me, kid?

an old fart.

traipses away

--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "****head" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

On 10 May 2008 03:42:33 GMT, gregvk wrote:

dave hillstrom wrote in
:

On 09 May 2008 23:06:49 GMT, gregvk wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:g02kb9$p2k$1
:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I note that this thread started with one or two useful answers,


Useful how? You don;t fly so you can't use them.


then
degenerated into an argument among "pilots" who manifestly didn't
actually know how anything worked, and has now further degenerated
info a flame war among a few angry young males. Along the way it
picked up a lot of bizarre crossposting, which I've removed on this
reply.

That's OK,. I';lll put them back.


Bertie

Why does he assume every poster is an angry young male?

im an angry middle aged male. im CLEALY in a separate demographic.

If you're male then how come you have such big boobs?

soy protein and black helicopters.

whats yer excuse?

--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "****head" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:38 -0400, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
got double secret probation for writing:

On Fri, 09 May 2008 20:16:11 -0700, Aratzio
wrote:

On Fri, 09 May 2008 22:59:22 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
dave hillstrom got double secret probation for
writing:

On 09 May 2008 23:06:49 GMT, gregvk wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:g02kb9$p2k$1
:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I note that this thread started with one or two useful answers,


Useful how? You don;t fly so you can't use them.


then
degenerated into an argument among "pilots" who manifestly didn't
actually know how anything worked, and has now further degenerated
info a flame war among a few angry young males. Along the way it
picked up a lot of bizarre crossposting, which I've removed on this
reply.

That's OK,. I';lll put them back.


Bertie

Why does he assume every poster is an angry young male?

im an angry middle aged male. im CLEALY in a separate demographic.

bejebus, iffen yer middle age what the hell does that make me, kid?

an old fart.

traipses away

Cmon, I drop a BOMB of a straight line and that is it?

pouts


--

A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz
Accept No Substitute

On May 10, 7:22*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:59c00842-d3d5-40be-9cec-
:







On May 9, 11:57*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 7 May 2008 13:55:43 -0700 (PDT), WingFlaps

wrote:
On May 8, 12:17*am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:

your questions dont have that much depth btw.
just a lot of misunderstood aerodynamics.

Naysaying is the mark of a troll wihen no facts are given to back it
up.

Cheers

accusing someone who disagrees with you of being a troll is so lame.

ok lets get this in proper perspective.

the average GA tailplane has a span of about 8ft.
the trim tab sits on only one side and it is about a foot span and
maybe 2 inches chord.

Go and measure an Arrow or 177. Even a 172 has a bigger trim tab than
that. BUT you still don't understand the point.

just considering the tailplane chord through the trim tab for the
time
being. you are looking at a chord of about 2 ft. *
wound to it's full extent it would have maybe 5% effective change in
the aerofoil characteristics. bear in mind that it lives down near
the
trailing edge where the contribution to lift is minimal.

With this last statement I can see there is absolutely no point to
discussing this with you as you don't know how an airfoil works.

He does understand actually. your own understanding is extremely flawed.

Bye

.

Sheesh you say good bye a lot.- Hide quoted text -

You have me confused with someone else.

Cheers

On Fri, 09 May 2008 21:34:48 -0700, Aratzio
wrote:

On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:22:38 -0400, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
got double secret probation for writing:

On Fri, 09 May 2008 20:16:11 -0700, Aratzio
wrote:

On Fri, 09 May 2008 22:59:22 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
dave hillstrom got double secret probation for
writing:

On 09 May 2008 23:06:49 GMT, gregvk wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:g02kb9$p2k$1
:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I note that this thread started with one or two useful answers,


Useful how? You don;t fly so you can't use them.


then
degenerated into an argument among "pilots" who manifestly didn't
actually know how anything worked, and has now further degenerated
info a flame war among a few angry young males. Along the way it
picked up a lot of bizarre crossposting, which I've removed on this
reply.

That's OK,. I';lll put them back.


Bertie

Why does he assume every poster is an angry young male?

im an angry middle aged male. im CLEALY in a separate demographic.

bejebus, iffen yer middle age what the hell does that make me, kid?

an old fart.

traipses away

Cmon, I drop a BOMB of a straight line and that is it?

pouts

look. right about now, after that many tokes, yer lucky to get 3,
maybe 4 of my neurons firing per 60th of a second. not a good
percentage, you think?

pity the week, for they shall inherit the earth. with strict
licensing and regular fees.

--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "****head" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

WingFlaps wrote in news:bad2ae6c-30df-4ff7-ac5c-
:

On May 10, 7:22*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:59c00842-d3d5-40be-
9cec-
:







On May 9, 11:57*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Wed, 7 May 2008 13:55:43 -0700 (PDT), WingFlaps

wrote:
On May 8, 12:17*am, Stealth Pilot notranspon...
@aeroplanes.com.au
wrote:

your questions dont have that much depth btw.
just a lot of misunderstood aerodynamics.

Naysaying is the mark of a troll wihen no facts are given to back
it
up.

Cheers

accusing someone who disagrees with you of being a troll is so
lame.

ok lets get this in proper perspective.

the average GA tailplane has a span of about 8ft.
the trim tab sits on only one side and it is about a foot span and
maybe 2 inches chord.

Go and measure an Arrow or 177. Even a 172 has a bigger trim tab
than
that. BUT you still don't understand the point.

just considering the tailplane chord through the trim tab for the
time
being. you are looking at a chord of about 2 ft. *
wound to it's full extent it would have maybe 5% effective change
in
the aerofoil characteristics. bear in mind that it lives down near
the
trailing edge where the contribution to lift is minimal.

With this last statement I can see there is absolutely no point to
discussing this with you as you don't know how an airfoil works.

He does understand actually. your own understanding is extremely
flawed.

Bye

.

Sheesh you say good bye a lot.- Hide quoted text -

You have me confused with someone else.

Cheers


Oooo kkkk.

Bertie

On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:27:34 GMT, Benjamin Dover
wrote:

george wrote in
:

On May 10, 12:15 pm, Benjamin Dover wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
:

I note that this thread started with one or two useful answers,
then degenerated into an argument among "pilots" who manifestly
didn't actually know how anything worked, and has now further
degenerated info a flame war among a few angry young males. Along
the way it picked up a lot of bizarre crossposting, which I've
removed on this reply.

You haven't got the foggiest idea of which answers were useful and
which weren't. You don't fly and you don't know **** from shinola
about flying.

Elsewhere there is a link to a kill file that works in Google.
It works.
No more Mxsmanic.


Yes, but you'll miss out on all the opportunites to see how the self
proclaimed expert pilot is a total ignoramus when it comes to flying. It
does have some entertainment value.

Unfortunately, no - we won't. People keep replying to it and we all
get to see the replies. Unless that killfile works differently than
say Agent's. I haven't seen a direct posting from it in months, just
replies to the drivel.

Just go look it up! wrote in
:

On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:27:34 GMT, Benjamin Dover
wrote:

george wrote in
:

On May 10, 12:15 pm, Benjamin Dover wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
:

I note that this thread started with one or two useful answers,
then degenerated into an argument among "pilots" who manifestly
didn't actually know how anything worked, and has now further
degenerated info a flame war among a few angry young males.
Along the way it picked up a lot of bizarre crossposting, which
I've removed on this reply.

You haven't got the foggiest idea of which answers were useful and
which weren't. You don't fly and you don't know **** from shinola
about flying.

Elsewhere there is a link to a kill file that works in Google.
It works.
No more Mxsmanic.


Yes, but you'll miss out on all the opportunites to see how the self
proclaimed expert pilot is a total ignoramus when it comes to flying.
It does have some entertainment value.

Unfortunately, no - we won't. People keep replying to it and we all
get to see the replies. Unless that killfile works differently than
say Agent's. I haven't seen a direct posting from it in months, just
replies to the drivel.


Here's a thought. You could just not read posts form people you don't
like.


Bertie