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Tarver Engineering wrote:
This is my last reply here at rai, as this is way off topic and I don't expect you will change your religous beliefs based on hard physical evidence, or for any other reason. I agree that this discussion is way off topic, and that it's a good time to end it. It's just such a shame that you refuse to offer any "hard physical evidence" for your statements. Oh, and by the way, I guess astronomy cannot be considered a science either since it so often fails the "experimentally demonstrable" requirement of a theory. I do suggest you check out a good discussion on the philosophy of science sometime, though, to find out what really is required to have a valid theory. Rich Lemert |
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"darwin smith" wrote in message ink.net... Tarver Engineering wrote: Oh, and by the way, I guess astronomy cannot be considered a science either since it so often fails the "experimentally demonstrable" requirement of a theory. Why would you post something so rediculess? Astromony adheres to the real scientific method. Anyway, the discussion is moved to talk.origins. TO has been pretty well destroyed since my discussion with Andrew Hall there would up in the WSJ, so you will find many kooks and trolls there. |
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Success in governing requires more than one point of view. It takes
ALL of us thinking and acting upon our beliefs. The collective wisdom is greater than any ONE person's wisdom, and even greater than the sum of all the people's wisdom. That is what MAKES a democracy work. |
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"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message ... David Brooks opined "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... I have never been convicted of anything. No one saw me do it. You can't prove it. The sheep are lying. Does that mean it's going to rain? No, it's cows that lie down before it rains. Dunno what sheep do. I hear they do baad things. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: wrote in message ... No doubt about it, and I did not imply that. Nonetheless, a 3,000' runway at Podunk, Iowa, with two GPS approaches, represents a signifgicant federal subsidy to the users of that airport. I can't find Podunk in the Iowa airport directory. Not by city or airport name. Where is this airport? What is the dollar amount of the federal subsidy for a 3,000' runway and two GPS approaches at this airport? Keep looking. I was not suggesting the feds paid for the runway. The GPS approaches cost about $60,000 each. If you want verfication for that write to the FAA. |
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wrote in message ... Keep looking. I have concluded it does not exist. I was not suggesting the feds paid for the runway. The GPS approaches cost about $60,000 each. If you want verfication for that write to the FAA. Is that how you obtained the figure? Why not just post the relevant parts of your letter from the FAA? |
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a really important plot point:
The liberals have been much more successful in redistributing the wealth, than the conservatives have been in controlling my body. As soon as this changes, I will vote the other way. Everyone is being punished by the socialist system, even the poor who are corrupted by it. I don't think the conservatives could ever come close to being as invasive in my life as the libs. In any case, the conservatives are in favor of me having a gun, so that tells me a little about how "in my face" they intend to get. "Pete" wrote in message ... In article .net, "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: "Pete" wrote in message .com... No, they want to tell you what you can and can't do in your bedroom, and with your own body. They want to tell you who you can marry, demand you go to church, but then you catch them in a motel room doin' what they said not to do. Conservatives are a bunch of lying liars. You've bought the propaganda. The basic difference between conservatives and liberals is their position on freedom. Conservatives are fer it, liberals are agin' it. Then why the fight against gay marriage? Why the fight against abortion? Why the fight against pr0n? Conservatives are all for the rights of corporations to dump waste oil into fresh water supplies, for the rights of employers to force their workers to take horrrible physical risks and then not be compensated when they're injured. They're in favor of telling women what they can do with their bodies, in favor of snooping in private bedrooms, in favor of snooping on people's computers. The way things are going, the only good conservative, is a dead one, and in case you're wondering, I'm 53 years old. I see what happens when idiots like Chimpie are in power. Or evil criminals like Reagan and Nixon. -- Hell yeah I'd love to make it But I suck at playing games I'd rather starve than fake it For a little taste of fame |
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Amen
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Dave Stadt wrote: "Judah" wrote in message ... "Dave Stadt" wrote in m: "Judah" wrote in message ... How, exactly, do the rich get richer without taking other people's assets? By applying themselves and earning what they accumulate. If you are smart and work hard you win. If you are dumb and sit at home waiting for the welfare check you lose. Ahhh... So that's why my brilliant seventh grade science teacher is so wealthy, and Mike Tyson, who can barely speak english, is so broke! In fact Mike Tyson is broke. His current net worth is a couple of thousand dollars. Tyson didn't sit home waiting for a government check although he might well end up in that situation. If in fact the science teacher is brilliant the opportunity to increase earnings is readily available. And not everyone is driven by wealth creation. A lot of teachers, scientists, etc., really are driven by other motiviations. I know that is hard for many to believe, but it is true. Matt |
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Dude wrote: snip Perhaps, but what about the argument that escalating college costs are a direct result of too much government subsidy. Why did he need college, because he didn't get an adequate high school education? Was this due to the effect of the liberalization of public schools? My high school was adequate, but one does not become a Mechanical Engineer without going to college. Many of the engineers I graduated with had some kind of public assistance. Think about this the next time your doctor orders a MRI to diagnose your ailment. It would be pretty tough to do if some of us that actually design and build the things you use everyday weren't motivated by something other than money. All this post points out is that the government has gotten way too involved in our lives without any supporting evidence that we would not be better off without that involvement. We don't know that the author would not have been better off without college. That's not the point. This was, and is, NOT about me! That is a selfish attitude, and one I choose not to take. When will there be a general realization that, for all of it's faults, the government intervention that you so quickly dismiss provides many necessary items that WE ALL use every day. There may be no supporting argument to say that WE are better off, but the opposite is not the case. There are many supporting arguments indicating that WE would be worse off if there were no government (read general public) intervention. The people that are fond of spouting that we "should let the Free Market Economy work (our fearless leader included) seem to forget that we have done this in the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, horrible child labor situations, Company Stores, and Slavery. Please recognize that this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of the "Free Market Economy" to an end. snip -- Remove "2PLANES" to reply. |
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