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Old February 16th 07, 05:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
scott moore
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Ron Lee wrote:
In todays AvWebFlash they state that the FAA proposal recommends
increasing the av gas tax from around 19-21 cents to 70 cents (US).
If their goal is to kill GA this is a step in the right direction.

Ron Lee


Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions.

Which will increase the pressure for user fees.

And on and on and on.

Scott
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Old February 16th 07, 06:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
Ray Andraka
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scott moore wrote:



Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions.



Those of you who can. Some 70% of the piston flying is done with high
performance engines that can't use mogas, my Six included.
  #253  
Old February 16th 07, 07:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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scott moore wrote:
Ron Lee wrote:
In todays AvWebFlash they state that the FAA proposal recommends
increasing the av gas tax from around 19-21 cents to 70 cents (US).
If their goal is to kill GA this is a step in the right direction.

Ron Lee


Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions.

Which will increase the pressure for user fees.



User fees are dead. They don't stand a chance.


  #254  
Old February 16th 07, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
Newps
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Ray Andraka wrote:
scott moore wrote:



Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions.



Those of you who can. Some 70% of the piston flying is done with high
performance engines that can't use mogas, my Six included.


All but a very few engines could run on mogas. Those that can't now
would need an electronic ignition. The few that never will are the high
HP turbo models, such as in the Navajo Chieftain.
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Old February 16th 07, 07:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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Newps wrote:


User fees are dead. They don't stand a chance.



I would agree that is the case for a few years.
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Old February 16th 07, 09:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
Newps
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Sam Spade wrote:
Newps wrote:


User fees are dead. They don't stand a chance.



I would agree that is the case for a few years.




It goes in 10 year increments.
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Old February 16th 07, 10:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
Sam Spade
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Newps wrote:


Sam Spade wrote:

Newps wrote:


User fees are dead. They don't stand a chance.



I would agree that is the case for a few years.





It goes in 10 year increments.


I didn't know that. How can they lock any appropriation method for 10
years?
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Old February 16th 07, 10:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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In article ,
B A R R Y wrote:

Viperdoc wrote:
You have to remember that tankers are an essential and valuable asset, and
the current ones are based on 707's.


I thought they had a bunch of KC-10's?


Yes, but not a lot. There are over 500 KC-135's (which, btw, are NOT based on
the 707 - they share bloodlines, but the 135 preceded the 707).

--
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  #259  
Old February 17th 07, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
Newps
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Sam Spade wrote:
Newps wrote:



Sam Spade wrote:

Newps wrote:


User fees are dead. They don't stand a chance.



I would agree that is the case for a few years.






It goes in 10 year increments.



I didn't know that. How can they lock any appropriation method for 10
years?


The last time we had this fight was 10 years ago, the current system has
to be decided no later than Sept 30 because there is a sunset provision
in what we are doing now. They will, in the end, reauthorize the
current system pretty much as is. Taxes on airline tickets and per
passenger fees may get adjusted slightly.
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Old February 17th 07, 12:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
John R. Copeland
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"Newps" wrote in message . ..

Ray Andraka wrote:
scott moore wrote:

Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions.


Those of you who can. Some 70% of the piston flying is done with high
performance engines that can't use mogas, my Six included.


All but a very few engines could run on mogas. Those that can't now
would need an electronic ignition. The few that never will are the high
HP turbo models, such as in the Navajo Chieftain.


I won't argue percentages, but I keep hoping technology will rescue us
before I need to replace my matched pair of TSIO520NBRs again.
I doubt that turbodiesels are in my future, but it's hard to know for sure.

 




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