NATCA Going Down in Flames

"Emily" wrote in message
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DFW.


You live on the airport?



And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least a
two hour drive from work/home.


Where do you live? City. Township. Something I can work with.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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DFW.


You live on the airport?

DFW is the term for the metropolitan region.

And no, the airports on the outskirts don't count, as they are at least a
two hour drive from work/home.


Where do you live? City. Township. Something I can work with.

Not on Usenet, sorry.

"Emily" wrote in message
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Not on Usenet, sorry.


Then I can't help you.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Not on Usenet, sorry.


Then I can't help you.


I wasn't asking for help. I know full well what kind of flying I can
and can't do based on my location. VFR in uncontrolled airspace is very
difficult.

Emily wrote:

VFR in uncontrolled airspace is very
difficult.

You're the only one that thinks that.

Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:

VFR in uncontrolled airspace is very
difficult.

You're the only one that thinks that.

Well, someone has yet to give me a way that I can fly IN MY LOCAL AREA
without talking to ATC.

And driving two hours to an airport outside of town doesn't count - that
makes it difficult.

Well, someone has yet to give me a way that I can fly IN MY LOCAL AREA without talking to ATC.

Sounds like a case of "if it's not in my back yard, it's not a problem".
It reminds me of the DC ADIZ.

Jose
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:

VFR in uncontrolled airspace is very
difficult.

You're the only one that thinks that.

Well, someone has yet to give me a way that I can fly IN MY LOCAL AREA
without talking to ATC.

Are you unable (from where you're based) to remain below the DFW Class
Bravo...? What, are you based *in* the DFW surface area, like *at* DFW? If
that's the case, it's a loaded question!!!

Here in Phoenix, from my home field (P19 - Stellar Airpark), we can depart
straight out on RWY17 and step climb out from under the Class B. And as far
as going north is concerned we just head northwest toward Falcon Field
(KFFZ) staying east of the Class Bravo surface area and under the first
outer ring. You can turn north while still west of Falcon's Class Delta.
There is plenty of room to climb above the cumulous granite and still not
bust the Class Bravo...and you don't have to talk to anyone.

And driving two hours to an airport outside of town doesn't count - that
makes it difficult.

From reading what you're "saying" I would think this would just make it
*more* difficult. You already are saying it's difficult to begin with.

Jay B

"Jose" wrote in message
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Why do you care what they look like? Aren't there more important issues
with the FAA?

Obviously, they have determined that how a controller is dressed directly
effects whether aircraft depart from the correct runway...

"BTIZ" wrote in message
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It seems that NATCA did not have the guts to talk with their feet on their
new contract that was forced down their throat. IIRC Prez Billy called
their
bluff back in the early 90s contract negotiation also.

Kind of seems like a profession where there is only one employer... Does
your run of the mill controller really have any other job opportunities? I
suspect that senior management would have other opportunities in that they
can shuffle papers just about anywhere, but what about the guys who are
actually doing the work?