AOPA credit card --- WARNING.

Yeah, I got a corporate AMEX delivered to my hotel room in Madrid when I
told my company that I couldn't pay a $250/day hotel room bill (times 60
days) on my own personal credit card.

Wow -- I hope you were staying at the Taj Majal.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" said:
Yeah, I got a corporate AMEX delivered to my hotel room in Madrid when I
told my company that I couldn't pay a $250/day hotel room bill (times 60
days) on my own personal credit card.

Wow -- I hope you were staying at the Taj Majal.

Nope, the Melia Castilla. Actually, come to think of it, it was only
$200/day after we found that (since we were working with IBM) we could
stay on the "Servicio Real" (Royal Service) floors at the IBM corporate
rate instead of the "soak the gringos rate" on their regular floors.

Still, looking on-line, I see that their rates haven't gotten any better.
One site has one room at $252.99/night, and another at $332.99/night.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:17:13 -0500, Matt Whiting
wrote:

Yes, I think Bush's much more aggressive approach to terrorism has
helped. Yes, I am considering the lag time, but I'm also considering
that four years is plenty of time given that this is about how long the
planning for 9/11 apparently took.

Too bad Bush didn't get aggressive with Al Qaida prior to the attacks,
when being aggressive might have stopped them. Richard Clarke, former
adviser to the Bush White House reported that he could not get the
White House to listen to him or even discuss Al Qaida prior to
September 11, 2001.

The day after the attacks he reported that Rumsfeld demanded that he
find a link connecting Iraq to the attacks despite the common
knowledge that Al Qaida was operating in Afghanistan, not Iraq.
Clarke has said that this demand was so strange that he actually
thought Rumsfeld was joking, at first. Here are his exact words:

"I think they wanted to believe that there was a connection [to Iraq],
but the CIA was sitting there, the FBI was sitting there, I was
sitting there saying we've looked at this issue for years. For years
we've looked and there's just no connection."

So not only did Bush not listen to warnings about the possibility of
an attack on the US using airliners as weapons (the week prior to
9/11/01 Condoleeza Rice gave a speech in which she claimed that our
main security concern is to counter intercontinental ballistic
missiles), he eventually attacked a country that was not harboring Al
Qaida operatives, a country who's dictator the leader of Al Qaida
hated almost as much as America.

Corky Scott

Still, looking on-line, I see that their rates haven't gotten any better.
One site has one room at $252.99/night, and another at $332.99/night.

For those rates, they had better have the Spanish Bikini Team providing full
body massages...

;-)

In our place, that would get you a 1300 sq ft, 2-story townhouse, with full
kitchen, 2 queen bedrooms, 2 baths (one with hot tub) -- and breakfast
delivered -- for TWO nights!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" said:
Still, looking on-line, I see that their rates haven't gotten any better.
One site has one room at $252.99/night, and another at $332.99/night.

In our place, that would get you a 1300 sq ft, 2-story townhouse, with full
kitchen, 2 queen bedrooms, 2 baths (one with hot tub) -- and breakfast
delivered -- for TWO nights!

Madrid was expensive. A Whopper, fries and a beer at the local Burger
King (yes, they sell beer at Burger King in Spain) was $10.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
[Y]ou should write for the comprehension of the next programmer who
looks at your code, keep it clean and sensible, and *not* play
any obscure Jedi mind-tricks. -- Anthony de Boer

Jay Honeck wrote:

Still, looking on-line, I see that their rates haven't gotten any better.
One site has one room at $252.99/night, and another at $332.99/night.


For those rates, they had better have the Spanish Bikini Team providing full
body massages...

;-)

In our place, that would get you a 1300 sq ft, 2-story townhouse, with full
kitchen, 2 queen bedrooms, 2 baths (one with hot tub) -- and breakfast
delivered -- for TWO nights!

What about the massages? :-)

Matt

"Chuck" wrote in message m...
"John Galban" wrote in message
om...

snip

I've almost never kept a balance on a credit card. If I can't get a
real loan (i.e. bank loan with reasonable terms), then that means I
probably can't afford whatever it is I want to buy.


Must be nice... I don't have the option of very many luxuries, so I need
credit from time to time for necessities...


Reread my post. I said that if you do need to borrow money, a
credit card is the most expensive (and risky) way to get it, leaving
you even fewer options for luxuries. If a credit card is your only
option, then you're in need of some financial planning.

My point was that the typical credit card agreement exposes you to a
potential finanacial disaster. It allows the issuing bank to put you
into a financial hole that could take years to dig yourself out of.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

(Paul Tomblin) writes:


Madrid was expensive. A Whopper, fries and a beer at the local Burger
King (yes, they sell beer at Burger King in Spain) was $10.

Try Martinique. I emptied out the mini-bar and bought cheese, meat
and French break to meet per-diem. Sunday I ate at the tourist hotel's
buffet brunch and it was $40.00...

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A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

Roger writes:



BTW, every since the checking account has existed, people have
depended on the time for a check to clear. That is coming to an end
as are the jobs flying canceled checks. In the not too distant
future, when you write a check, it will be debited against your
account and credited to the payee almost instantly. It's this way in
some areas now, but it's becoming universal.


Make that "past" as Check21 went into effect this month. Note your deposits
STILL 'anti-float'....

--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

Matt Whiting wrote:
Unfortunately, our schools and often
our parents simply don't teach people good financial management skills.
And society in general certainly encourages financial recklessness and
people without the skills and will power to handle it can easily get in
trouble.

Reluctantly dipping my toe in this thread and finding something on which to
agree with Matt :-)

My parents, bless 'em, did their best to give me a good start in life and I
certainly thank them for all they did for me, but they couldn't pass on
knowledge they didn't have. They didn't know much about how to manage money, and
I inherited their ignorance. I didn't know how much I didn't know. I've been to
the brink and seen down into the abyss. I'm still learning. If you (collective
you) are like me, take the initiative to get some help, training, education in
managing money, then apply the things you learn. It's not too late... and don't
forget to pass along what you learn to your kids.

Dave