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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:16:17 -0500, "Rick" wrote in :: There's not one thing Bush could do that could not be harshly condemned. I doubt he would have been condemned for taking an interest in the disaster area a few days earlier. He signed the Fed side of the papers declaring the area a disaster BEFORe the hurricane hit. The Stte side of the papers had to be executed, though, before the Feds could move. He took an interest. -- Saville Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm Steambending FAQ with photos: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:02:02 GMT, "sfb" wrote in _PqSe.917$9q4.789@trnddc08:: He signed the orders declaring the states eligible for Federal disaster aid the week before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast. When did he personally inspect the area? Just exactly what do you think the presidential inspection accomplishes in REAL terms with regard to helping out and solving problems? The President (no matter who it is) gets all the reports he/she needs to determine the severity of the problems. The presidential fly by is nothing more than an attempt to quiet the morons who think that UNLESS the presidents fly over the area and sees it for themselves, they don't care. It's the aerial equivalent of biting one's lip and announcing that they feel your pain. It contributes NOTHING to solving the problems. In fact it's a hideous waste of valuable time. -- Saville Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm Steambending FAQ with photos: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm |
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Oh, God. I didn't make the "A" list once again.
DAMN. Jim You can not believe how much easier it is to read these newsgroups now that "Jay Honeck", "Bob Noel", "Newps", "Matt Whiting", "john smith", "Dave Stadt", "Jonathan Goodish", "Cub Driver", "Otis Winslow", "W P Dixon", "Gig 601XL Builder" and "George Patterson" now reside in my kill file with the other trolls. |
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Aren't the civilian and military rules different? Can't the President
can crank up FEMA, but the National Guard is a state thing with Federal concurrence. "gregg" wrote in message ... Larry Dighera wrote: On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:16:17 -0500, "Rick" wrote in :: There's not one thing Bush could do that could not be harshly condemned. I doubt he would have been condemned for taking an interest in the disaster area a few days earlier. He signed the Fed side of the papers declaring the area a disaster BEFORe the hurricane hit. The Stte side of the papers had to be executed, though, before the Feds could move. He took an interest. -- Saville Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm Steambending FAQ with photos: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm |
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On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 10:21:15 -0400, Tom Fleischman
wrote in 2005090410211516807%bodhioneeightyeightjunkatmacd otcom@junkjunk:: I personally cannot abide these assholes anymore. You can not believe how much easier it is to read these newsgroups now that "Jay Honeck", "Bob Noel", "Newps", "Matt Whiting", "john smith", "Dave Stadt", "Jonathan Goodish", "Cub Driver", "Otis Winslow", "W P Dixon", "Gig 601XL Builder" and "George Patterson" now reside in my kill file At least those airmen have the decency and good sense not to profane their brothers publicly. :-( |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
When did he personally inspect the area? gregg wrote: Just exactly what do you think the presidential inspection accomplishes in REAL terms with regard to helping out and solving problems? The President (no matter who it is) gets all the reports he/she needs to determine the severity of the problems. The presidential fly by is nothing more than an attempt to quiet the morons who think that UNLESS the presidents fly over the area and sees it for themselves, they don't care. It's the aerial equivalent of biting one's lip and announcing that they feel your pain. It contributes NOTHING to solving the problems. In fact it's a hideous waste of valuable time. This morning on ABC, they played a video made earlier this week of George Stephanopolas riding in an S-76 flying around the New Orleans ares with Louisiana Senator Andrews (?). She was blaming all of New Orleans and Louisiana's ills on the Bush administration. She complained about his visit earlier this week and how it was just a photo op. She said Bush should come ride with her so she can show him the real disaster area. (Sounds like someone wants a photo op with the President? "That's right Mr and Ms Louisiana voter, that was me with the President during our hour of need!") Part of the tour included her property an area on a point of land where she had been staying prior to the hurricane. She kept calling a "camp". All the "camps" on this point of land were high priced year round homes. She said some of them were worth over a million dollars. Each had their own 300 foot sea wall/dock. Her home was destroyed, as were most of the others that had been built on slabs. Those homes built on stilts were intact with minimum damage, as were the boathouses. |
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john smith wrote: Interesting comments by the talking heads this morning. Under the Renquist court, states rights were favored. The question today is, will the new Supreme Court justices return control to a more federal central system? Aren't home rule and states rights the reasons for the New Orleans and Lousiana debacles. How could the federal government have enforced the madatory evacuation order when the local and state didn't even bother? Regardless of any opinions of the role of federal and state governments, the fact is that the Constitution specifically prohibits federal meddling in ANYTHING that isn't specifically stated in the Constitution. It doesn't take much studying to determine that most of what the federal government does is not constitutional. There is a mechanism to amend the Constitution to permit additional federal authority, and that is the mechanism that should be used--and not the courts--if the population wants to grant the federal government greater authority. The scary part about disasters like Katrina are the large populations looking to the government, especially the federal government, to bail them out. Decades ago, folks turned to their communities and local governments for help, they toughed it out, and survived. In today's world, responsible behavior is punished and irresponsible behavior is rewarded with "free" hand-outs by the federal government. I don't know much about the politicians in Louisiana, but I am having a difficult time understanding why tens of thousands of folks would be offered "refuge" at a location inside a city that is mostly below sea level and surrounded by major bodies of water. Why weren't folks put on buses and evacuated outside of the city to higher ground BEFORE the storm? It seems to me that the governor, mayor, and other state and local politicians bear the brunt of the blame for the resulting human debacle in New Orleans. JKG |
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"RST Engineering" wrote in message
... Oh, God. I didn't make the "A" list once again. DAMN. You can not believe how much easier it is to read these newsgroups now that "Jay Honeck", "Bob Noel", "Newps", "Matt Whiting", "john smith", "Dave Stadt", "Jonathan Goodish", "Cub Driver", "Otis Winslow", "W P Dixon", "Gig 601XL Builder" and "George Patterson" now reside in my kill file with the other trolls. I didn't make the list either. I'm probably already in most peoples lists anyways. -Greg B. |
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sfb wrote:
Aren't the civilian and military rules different? Can't the President can crank up FEMA, but the National Guard is a state thing with Federal concurrence. I don't believe so. The Feds can't move into a State and start doing anyting unless the State asks for it. No matter if it's military or civilian. -- Saville Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm Steambending FAQ with photos: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm |
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Matt,
Maybe I just missed it, but I don't recall a single terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11. And that's got exactly WHAT to do with the TSA or the Dept. for Homeland Security? Prove correlation, please - if you can. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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