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"Erich Adler" wrote in message om... I see that many people here is the United States cannot comprehend the developments brought on by the Allied bombing campaign against Germany during the Second World War. I see that many people, like you, are kooks who will believe anything that's put to them if it sounds "kewl." But over in Germany many such books exist on the subject you Americans find impossible to discuss civily, German disc planes. Discussion of supposed Germany flying saucers has turned up in a number of North American released books over the years, ranging from a '70s release written by Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel under a penname to Nick Cook's The Hunt For Zero Point. The SS, however, had been involved in the black arts since the Nazis took power and had both Hitler's and Himmler's backing to develope occult craft from the Thule and Vril Gesellschafts. If only the Nazis had wasted more effort on such nonsense, assuming of course they actually These black societies centering around occult teachings and two psychic mediums sometime in the 1930's built a flying disc that utilized technology derived from occult science. It flew badly and crashed but worked continued with the help of a Dr. Schumann who invented levitators centered around a liquid mercury sphere and various spinning internal disc plates that somehow caused a rotating magnetic field effect. And your proof that any of the crap you're spewing is true is? tim gueguen 101867 |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:55:58 -0600, t_mark wrote:
Point being, as a person of no particular faith living in the U.S. I see the 'religion' here for what it is, and it's a far, far sight from the beliefs of many foreigners who hear that most Americans believe in some sort of god and summarily decide there's some sort of theocracy over here. While the USA clearly isn't a theocracy, religion is clearly influential enough that states from time to time take evolution off their school curricula. -- "It's easier to find people online who openly support the KKK than people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia (Email: zen19725 at zen dot co dot uk) |
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Bernardz wrote in message news:MPG.1a9b8d33930402ad9898f6@news...
In article , says... Some say the technology came from an alien UFO that crashed near Freiberg in 1936 and was taken to Himmler's castle at Wewelsberg, reverse engineered. Nevertheless, Thule and Vril continued development of these RFZ (RundFlugZeug) with models 1-6 up to 1939. By the start of the war Vril had their own designs of which the often-quoted V-7 is mentioned. This is a mislabel as it is not part of the The designation V-1, V-2 etc was not used till late in the war. The designation V was for "Versuchs" the German word for experimental. Most german protduction aircraft had up to 30-100 V series aircraft V1, V2..V7 and that was a trend that seems to have been in place before the war etc on which various engine, weapons, modifications were carried out. Occaisionaly some enteres sevice eg when the Arado 234 V5 and V7 were hurridly taken out of testing to photo recon the D-day landings. The use of the term V1 and V2 for the Fi 103 cruise missile and A4 Ballistic missile had the advantage of throing of allied intelligence. The first the allies know about the Fi 103 was photo recon of the ski ramps lauch sites german security was soi succesfull. Part of the reaon for the botched first days of lauch was that all launches involved a very complicated sequence that had to be done completely by memory. No notes were allowed! Vergeltungswaffen, just Vril-7. Meanwhile Thule came up with a more advanced Triebwerk that utilized Coler's free energy machine, a Van deGraf generator, a mercury sphere, and spherical levitators. This engine was installed in the large Haunebu craft that flew the Atlantic and made trips to an area Hitler knew would be safe from Allied bombing, New Schwabenland in Antartica. U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number 211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs, components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops maintained the base. It was probably a designation that did exist as an intended experimental type. apart from the electo u-boats type XXI and XXIII there was the hydrogen peroxide walter boats and others using compressed oxygen and diesel based on a Dai Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII. I like this story. It was better than the crap they taught me in Sunday School. Give it 1000 years of retelling it will end up like the Ark of the Covenent story and we'll have another new ethnocentric religion. |
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Well i believe in the German UFO technology in WW2 and jet propelled
objects disc shapes. If the German scientists and co were so much more advanced then the Allies with jets and new inventions from 1930s-1945, who knows what else was created that after the war the Allies dare not want the public to see.. Even today WW1 secret dealing with US army records are still highly guarded.. so i can suspect we only saw a tip of iceberg from ww2. Remember the german as we know were very creative with jets in 40s in the designs.. so they had big plans by the 50s if it had occurred. Virtually all US designs followed from them. Flying wings or discs were nothing new... why do americans think they are the only ones to be right? Thats is always how americans think, someone esle designed it but they claim it. Every country has secrets and protects them like a baby.. germany could of had a UFO crashes and the world would of not even known bar the high order of power... Its like saying Groom Lake is controlled by the CIA, which it is... SS could of easily controlled any UFO programs in germany. Americans need to think outside their box.. and credit germans for alot of their current technology and machines... Even if UFos were not common knowledge in 1940s, they are nowdays. Eunometic wrote: Bernardz wrote in message news:MPG.1a9b8d33930402ad9898f6@news... In article , says... Some say the technology came from an alien UFO that crashed near Freiberg in 1936 and was taken to Himmler's castle at Wewelsberg, reverse engineered. Nevertheless, Thule and Vril continued development of these RFZ (RundFlugZeug) with models 1-6 up to 1939. By the start of the war Vril had their own designs of which the often-quoted V-7 is mentioned. This is a mislabel as it is not part of the The designation V-1, V-2 etc was not used till late in the war. The designation V was for "Versuchs" the German word for experimental. Most german protduction aircraft had up to 30-100 V series aircraft V1, V2..V7 and that was a trend that seems to have been in place before the war etc on which various engine, weapons, modifications were carried out. Occaisionaly some enteres sevice eg when the Arado 234 V5 and V7 were hurridly taken out of testing to photo recon the D-day landings. The use of the term V1 and V2 for the Fi 103 cruise missile and A4 Ballistic missile had the advantage of throing of allied intelligence. The first the allies know about the Fi 103 was photo recon of the ski ramps lauch sites german security was soi succesfull. Part of the reaon for the botched first days of lauch was that all launches involved a very complicated sequence that had to be done completely by memory. No notes were allowed! Vergeltungswaffen, just Vril-7. Meanwhile Thule came up with a more advanced Triebwerk that utilized Coler's free energy machine, a Van deGraf generator, a mercury sphere, and spherical levitators. This engine was installed in the large Haunebu craft that flew the Atlantic and made trips to an area Hitler knew would be safe from Allied bombing, New Schwabenland in Antartica. U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number 211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs, components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops maintained the base. It was probably a designation that did exist as an intended experimental type. apart from the electo u-boats type XXI and XXIII there was the hydrogen peroxide walter boats and others using compressed oxygen and diesel based on a Dai Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII. I like this story. It was better than the crap they taught me in Sunday School. Give it 1000 years of retelling it will end up like the Ark of the Covenent story and we'll have another new ethnocentric religion. |
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Tex Houston wrote: "Bernardz" wrote in message news:MPG.1a9b8d33930402ad9898f6@news... In article , says... U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number 211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs, components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops maintained the base. Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII. I read a novel with this very plot. I no longer remember the name of that novel as I read two or three a week. I do recognize the difference between novels and non-fiction. Tex Maybe it was "Genesis", by W. A. Harbinson? I'm kind of embarrassed to admit knowing that, so here's my excuse -- back in the early 80s, when I was working in a bookstore, Dell (the publisher) gave out a bunch of free review copies. I finally got around to reading mine a couple years later, when I was home with the flu or somesuch and needed the distraction. It's not without some entertainment value, in a conspiro-whacko sort of way. |
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Erich Adler wrote: I see that many people here is the United States cannot comprehend the developments brought on by the Allied bombing campaign against Germany during the Second World War. But over in Germany many such books exist on the subject you Americans find impossible to discuss civily, German disc planes. Well, I apologize for being so ignorant on the subject, but that's what I get for spending all my time over at www.daniken.com I can, however, converse at length about Mayan laser pistols. |
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Bernardz wrote in message news:MPG.1a9b8d33930402ad9898f6@news...
In article , says... Some say the technology came from an alien UFO that crashed near Freiberg in 1936 and was taken to Himmler's castle at Wewelsberg, reverse engineered. Nevertheless, Thule and Vril continued development of these RFZ (RundFlugZeug) with models 1-6 up to 1939. By the start of the war Vril had their own designs of which the often-quoted V-7 is mentioned. This is a mislabel as it is not part of the The designation V-1, V-2 etc was not used till late in the war. The Vril-1 was flying by 1939, not the Vril-7. Postwar authors often mentioned a secret V-7 weapon in their books suggesting a continuation of the Vergeltungswaffen after the V-1 buzzbomb, V-2 BM, V-3 gun, and final V-4 missile. Vergeltungswaffen, just Vril-7. Meanwhile Thule came up with a more advanced Triebwerk that utilized Coler's free energy machine, a Van deGraf generator, a mercury sphere, and spherical levitators. This engine was installed in the large Haunebu craft that flew the Atlantic and made trips to an area Hitler knew would be safe from Allied bombing, New Schwabenland in Antartica. U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number 211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs, components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops maintained the base. Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII. Base 211 is often referenced as a code-name for the entire Antarctic program and disc connection. And why WOULD a secret SS battalion be listed among the combat divisions? The SS E-IV technical branch is barely known along with the Black Sun SS religious Order, the DHvSS, and the SS archeological unit that went to South America and Tibet... among other places searching for sacred relics. You really need to skip basic SS history and read up on the occult aspects of the Third Reich before opening your mouth. You probably aren't even aware that the Nazi Party (NSDAP) originated from the occult Thule/Vril Gesellschafts from way back to 1917. Before that Thule came from the German Order (aka Order of Teutons) of 1912 and was also known as the "Luminous Lodge"- directly connected to the Illuminati. That's what makes all of this hard to deal with; the entire Third Reich cannot be seperated from the occult, its symbolism, its mission, and its plans for ultimate control over the planet. Most people don't even recognize the swastika (Hakenkreuz) for what it symbolizes- the black sun wheel that Thule and Vril worshipped. A dark violet sun with dark powers. Vril is also the shortened version of Vri-il "Like God". At the heart of all this is the worship of pure evil. Anyway, Base 211 is interesting to speculate on but no one could reach it on land. Only a submarine could get there if the location was known. I wonder if the US or USSR ever tried to find it in the trench? The Germans probably mined the hell out of the area. Rob |
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Even when new amazing jets arrived they were scarce
on fuel and remained stationary on the ground. Up to 300 Messerschmitt 262's were grounded for that reason alone. I see this is going to be a fantasy piece.... ok. Get out the popcorn. Gordon ====(A+C==== USN SAR Donate your memories - write a note on the back and send your old photos to a reputable museum, don't take them with you when you're gone. |
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