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Wayne LaPierre of the NRA, Ollie North, and Kenneth Starr all support
the ACLU. Does that mean they are socialists? I fly, own an airplane, and I support the ACLU, although I think it picks and chooses its cases with a touch of hypocrisy. |
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wrote in message oups.com... So you wonder what's going to happen to general aviation because of the high prices of avgas? Acquire yourself an aircraft which will fly on auto fuel. I have a lovely 172G with autogas STC and will sell it to you for a reasonable price. Why fly a 172 when you shortly will be able to rum the big iron? There's a Lycoming TSIO-540 running in OK on avgas. http://www.engineteststand.com/testdata.htm http://www.taturbo.com/prismad.jpg |
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wrote in message oups.com... Wayne LaPierre of the NRA, Ollie North, and Kenneth Starr all support the ACLU. Does that mean they are socialists? First, do you have a cite for LaPierre and North? Starr, being a lawyer, probably would support them. And yes, to an extend, North and Starr have a lot of socialist in them (can't speak for LaPierre). In any case, your point is a non-sequitur. I fly, own an airplane, and I support the ACLU, although I think it picks and chooses its cases with a touch of hypocrisy. A _LOT_ of hypocrisy. Their original premise was not a matter of "principle of free speech". It was to avoid stifling the Communist Party USA's propaganda. Their main, original funding came from the Soviet NKVD (as demonstrated by the Soviet Archives). When they take on the universities and their speech code they'll have demonstrated they are no longer puppets. |
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
... "Dave Stadt" wrote in message I suspect people said the same thing when av gas went past $.50 a gallon. The price of gasoline is still well behind the inflation curve. Quite! http://txfx.net/2005/06/22/oil-prices-peak-well-no/ http://www.fintrend.com/ftf/images/c...n_20050404.gif Huh? If the price of gas or oil were "well behind the inflation curve", then the inflation-adjusted price would show an overall *decrease*. In fact, though, the inflation-adjusted price (according to the graph you cite) is now *three times* what it started as. It's true that the inflation-adjusted increase has been non-monotonic, according to the graph (there was a brief earlier spike above the present level); nontheless, the price has--both recently and overall--raced far ahead of the inflation curve, not behind it as you state. --Gary |
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"The American people will never knowingly
adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." -- Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU. Doesn't it embarrass you to propagate such a suspicious-looking quote without citing any source for it? (For one thing, people don't normally *announce* a deception that they're hoping will succeed; for another, liberalism may look socialist to right-wingers, but it doesn't look that way to liberals or to socialists, so why would it look that way to Thomas?) --Gary |
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Charles Oppermann wrote:
The cost of insuring an aircraft has skyrocketed at a rate greater than fuel costs. Really? That wasn't the case when I owned my Maule. The premium was something like $1,700 the first year (1995-96), but it came down to around $1,300 the last few years. IIRC, the quote I got last February was less than that. I've heard that twins have gotten expensive, though, but maybe that's just for new pilots? George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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Personally I hate driving and don't mind paying a premium over mogas
to get there direct in 1/3 of the time. Driving (to me) is frustrating where flying is not at all. There will always be people out there that want to travel quickly and escape the masses on the highways. Amen, brother. And it's up to those of us who have seen the GA light to show them "The Way"... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Matt Barrow wrote: wrote in message oups.com... So you wonder what's going to happen to general aviation because of the high prices of avgas? Acquire yourself an aircraft which will fly on auto fuel. I have a lovely 172G with autogas STC and will sell it to you for a reasonable price. Why fly a 172 when you shortly will be able to rum the big iron? There's a Lycoming TSIO-540 running in OK on avgas. http://www.engineteststand.com/testdata.htm http://www.taturbo.com/prismad.jpg I'll believe that when I see it. Test stands are inadequate to simulate flight conditions. In the meantime only low-power, lower-compression engines are legal for mogas. Cylinder pressures, heat, and many other considerations in a TSIO-540 don't make it a good candidate for high-volatility mogas. I don't know of any injected or turbocharged aircraft engine which could safely run on mogas. We have big-engine aircraft like Pathfinders and Bonanzas on our field with vapor-lock all the time, and that's with the blue gas. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Matt Barrow wrote: wrote in message oups.com... So you wonder what's going to happen to general aviation because of the high prices of avgas? Acquire yourself an aircraft which will fly on auto fuel. I have a lovely 172G with autogas STC and will sell it to you for a reasonable price. Why fly a 172 when you shortly will be able to rum the big iron? There's a Lycoming TSIO-540 running in OK on avgas. http://www.engineteststand.com/testdata.htm http://www.taturbo.com/prismad.jpg I'll believe that when I see it. Test stands are inadequate to simulate flight conditions. In the meantime only low-power, lower-compression engines are legal for mogas. Cylinder pressures, heat, and many other considerations in a TSIO-540 don't make it a good candidate for high-volatility mogas. I don't know of any injected or turbocharged aircraft engine which could safely run on mogas. That's correct with CURRENT ignition systems. We have big-engine aircraft like Pathfinders and Bonanzas on our field with vapor-lock all the time, and that's with the blue gas. Well, vapor lock has nothing to do with the type of fuel you're running. |
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wrote in message
oups.com... Why fly a 172 when you shortly will be able to rum the big iron? There's a Lycoming TSIO-540 running in OK on avgas. http://www.engineteststand.com/testdata.htm http://www.taturbo.com/prismad.jpg I'll believe that when I see it. Test stands are inadequate to simulate flight conditions. Such as? |
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