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"Jack" wrote in message ... Your nemeses are no doubt substantially in the minority, and not very good at accounting, either. Jack Yup, that's about my take on it too. Bill Daniels |
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Mark James Boyd wrote:
1-34 or DG-1000 or Grob 103. And requires one maintain a 2/3 glide ratio to a known landable field for all flights. A 2/3 glide ratio?? -Gerhard -- Gerhard Wesp o o Tel.: +41 (0) 43 5347636 Bachtobelstrasse 56 | http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~gwesp/ CH-8045 Zuerich \_/ See homepage for email address! |
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If your ship has 30:1, you keep within 20:1 to a landable field.
-- Bert Willing ASW20 "TW" "Gerhard Wesp" a écrit dans le message de news: ... Mark James Boyd wrote: 1-34 or DG-1000 or Grob 103. And requires one maintain a 2/3 glide ratio to a known landable field for all flights. A 2/3 glide ratio?? -Gerhard -- Gerhard Wesp o o Tel.: +41 (0) 43 5347636 Bachtobelstrasse 56 | http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~gwesp/ CH-8045 Zuerich \_/ See homepage for email address! |
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Au Contraire, Buttercup. There is nothing more boring than dragging some
poor schmuck to 3500' agl so he can stay up for an extra 5 minutes. Jack Well, the comercial op at Tehachapi doesn't allow X-C in their ships either. Here's a hint why: BASA, the club in the SF Bay Area with Pegasi and 103s and DG-100, eventually could not obtain hull insurance after too many claims. Eventually they overcame this by self-insuring for hull damage. I can't tell you if restricting X-C is a good idea or not for any particular organization, but there are reasons on both sides. I must say, however, that with the price of some 30:1 or better gliders in the $10k-$15k range (US), making an XC "sub-club" or syndicate seems to be warranted. Then when the competition eats into the club's monies, they'll buy the syndicate glider from you and all will be well I'm reasonably sure X-C is the main focus of Soaring, and NOT X-C is the main focus of gliding. I've yet to hear of someone who did 5 hours for the Silver duration right over the airport. That would be REALLY boring -- ------------+ Mark J. Boyd |
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I did my 5 hours within gliding distance of the field. Certainly no more
than 10 to 15 km from it. Boring? Hell no, I contacted wave and made my gold height in the same flight and I had less than 20 hours solo at the time. :-) Ian "Mark James Boyd" wrote in message news:4165da99$1@darkstar... Au Contraire, Buttercup. There is nothing more boring than dragging some poor schmuck to 3500' agl so he can stay up for an extra 5 minutes. Jack Well, the comercial op at Tehachapi doesn't allow X-C in their ships either. Here's a hint why: BASA, the club in the SF Bay Area with Pegasi and 103s and DG-100, eventually could not obtain hull insurance after too many claims. Eventually they overcame this by self-insuring for hull damage. I can't tell you if restricting X-C is a good idea or not for any particular organization, but there are reasons on both sides. I must say, however, that with the price of some 30:1 or better gliders in the $10k-$15k range (US), making an XC "sub-club" or syndicate seems to be warranted. Then when the competition eats into the club's monies, they'll buy the syndicate glider from you and all will be well I'm reasonably sure X-C is the main focus of Soaring, and NOT X-C is the main focus of gliding. I've yet to hear of someone who did 5 hours for the Silver duration right over the airport. That would be REALLY boring -- ------------+ Mark J. Boyd |
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Mark James Boyd wrote:
I've yet to hear of someone who did 5 hours for the Silver duration right over the airport. That would be REALLY boring Our club asks for the 5 hour duration flight before it would let you go cross country in a club ship. Boring? Maybe, but then, at that stage of your pilot's career, maybe not. And in our club, part of the game. Stefan |
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"tango4" wrote in message ...
I did my 5 hours within gliding distance of the field. Certainly no more than 10 to 15 km from it. Boring? Hell no, I contacted wave and made my gold height in the same flight and I had less than 20 hours solo at the time. I did my 300km Diamond Goal flight last weekend. At no point was I out of gliding range of the airport. 134km final glide from 15 500ft! Does this count as a X/C flight? Clinton LAK 12 |
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Clint wrote:
"tango4" wrote in message ... I did my 5 hours within gliding distance of the field. Certainly no more than 10 to 15 km from it. Boring? Hell no, I contacted wave and made my gold height in the same flight and I had less than 20 hours solo at the time. I did my 300km Diamond Goal flight last weekend. At no point was I out of gliding range of the airport. 134km final glide from 15 500ft! Does this count as a X/C flight? My opinion: If you had to navigate with paper maps, yes; or, if there was a good chance weather would cut you off from your home field, yes; otherwise, the informal rule is you need to be at least one thermal away for it to count as a XC flight. But what a great flight, right? -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Stefan wrote:
Mark James Boyd wrote: I've yet to hear of someone who did 5 hours for the Silver duration right over the airport. That would be REALLY boring Our club asks for the 5 hour duration flight before it would let you go cross country in a club ship. Boring? Maybe, but then, at that stage of your pilot's career, maybe not. And in our club, part of the game. In my experience, a Bronze badge is a fairly common requirement (or informal recommendation) before a student pilot X-C attempt. The Bronze badge precision landings and written test and two flights of over two hours are a better prep for X-C than a sole 5 hour duration flight, in my opinion. I actually really like the Bronze badge SSA instructor packet I got. And I was REALLY impressed by the LOW price I'm looking forward to handing out pins and giving written tests next soaring season... And as far as the 5 hours, if you can't actually see the airport because you're so far from it (or below a ridgeline) then that may count as not "right over the airport." ;PPPPPPP -- ------------+ Mark J. Boyd |
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At 11:00 08 October 2004, Clint wrote:
'tango4' wrote in message news:... I did my 5 hours within gliding distance of the field. Certainly no more than 10 to 15 km from it. Boring? Hell no, I contacted wave and made my gold height in the same flight and I had less than 20 hours solo at the time. I did my 300km Diamond Goal flight last weekend. At no point was I out of gliding range of the airport. 134km final glide from 15 500ft! Does this count as a X/C flight? Clinton LAK 12 Congratulations! Your question about X/C flight indicates that you did not feel the same level of accomplishment as those who did it in a 1950s glider. This is not a putdown; I've not yet done a 300K flight and I have a Discus. My longest flight was in a K-8 - 175mi. and that was a more substantial accomplishment than a 186. mi. will be in my present glider. |
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