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Painting with Latex House Paint
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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote: In article . com, says... That nurse's uniform fabric was dacron polyester? I've always thought it was a little bit of a sham that you pay double for PMA'd fabric with the FAA stamp on it, when the homebuilder fabric and the PMA'd most likely come from the same looms and the same factory. I used to cover my models with Polyester Sheath lining that I got from JoAnnes fabrics. Later I used it to cover my Easy Riser Ultralight. You can get it in colors and patterns too!! :-)It's about 1.6 - 1.8 ounce weight. Chuck S The only major caveat here is that you use "greige" (sp) Dacron, which has not been pre-shrunk. Most of the polyester that you buy in fabric stores has been shrunk already and will not taughten up under heat. That property is what Ceconite, Stits, etc. use to maintain a nice, tight cover. The dope, paint, etc. is there only to provide UV protection, fill the pores, give a finish, etc. It is also because the fabric is already taught that you use non-taughtening butyrate dope, or you can (will) warp things. |
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Painting with Latex House Paint
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Fairbairn says... The only major caveat here is that you use "greige" (sp) Dacron, which has not been pre-shrunk. Most of the polyester that you buy in fabric stores has been shrunk already and will not taughten up under heat. That property is what Ceconite, Stits, etc. use to maintain a nice, tight cover. The dope, paint, etc. is there only to provide UV protection, fill the pores, give a finish, etc. It is also because the fabric is already taught that you use non-taughtening butyrate dope, or you can (will) warp things. The Sheath lining has not been shrunk and will work just like Ceconite ,Stits etc. I used a nitrate based dope for my first coats and my final coats were Randolph butayrate dopes.My plane is in the EAA museum and is almost 30 years old and looks great. See ya Chuck |
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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote: In article , Orval Fairbairn says... The only major caveat here is that you use "greige" (sp) Dacron, which has not been pre-shrunk. Most of the polyester that you buy in fabric stores has been shrunk already and will not taughten up under heat. That property is what Ceconite, Stits, etc. use to maintain a nice, tight cover. The dope, paint, etc. is there only to provide UV protection, fill the pores, give a finish, etc. It is also because the fabric is already taught that you use non-taughtening butyrate dope, or you can (will) warp things. The Sheath lining has not been shrunk and will work just like Ceconite ,Stits etc. I used a nitrate based dope for my first coats and my final coats were Randolph butayrate dopes.My plane is in the EAA museum and is almost 30 years old and looks great. See ya Chuck It sounds like you did it right! A lot of the fabric store Dacron is pre-shrunk. People also used to make the mistake of applying butyrate directly to the Dacron -- it has very poor adhesion and will peel off. You need the nitrate to prime it wit™ something that will stick to the Dacron. Now -- how well does latex stick to the fabric, or do they use some other kind of primer? |
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Painting with Latex House Paint
Acrylic Latex gloss house paint is the nearest thing to immortality in
modern paints... UV reflective, water proof, non shrinking, tough, resists most solvents, really good stuff... You don't need anything "under" the paint to block the UV... The whole point of exterior paint is that it blocks UV and is waterproof... Many in the home boat builder ranks consider it theworld's best kept secret for finishing boats... You can buy 2 part Linear Polyurethane at $500 a gallon, or you can get Sherman WIlliams at the discount store... Your call... denny |
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Painting with Latex House Paint
In article .com,
"Denny" wrote: Acrylic Latex gloss house paint is the nearest thing to immortality in modern paints... UV reflective, water proof, non shrinking, tough, resists most solvents, really good stuff... You don't need anything "under" the paint to block the UV... The whole point of exterior paint is that it blocks UV and is waterproof... Many in the home boat builder ranks consider it theworld's best kept secret for finishing boats... You can buy 2 part Linear Polyurethane at $500 a gallon, or you can get Sherman WIlliams at the discount store... Your call... denny Does it stick to aluminum? Tin can pilots want to know. |
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Painting with Latex House Paint
In article , Orval
Fairbairn says... It sounds like you did it right! A lot of the fabric store Dacron is pre-shrunk. People also used to make the mistake of applying butyrate directly to the Dacron -- it has very poor adhesion and will peel off. You need the nitrate to prime it wit™ something that will stick to the Dacron. Now -- how well does latex stick to the fabric, or do they use some other kind of primer? You have to use a thinned down nitrate to encapsulate the weave .Nitrate does this very well. Most paints will skin over the top of the fabric and eventually peel off like sunburnt skin. Been there done that :-) I suppose the house paints will go over Nitrate OK but I wonder about making a repair to the fabric .I would think that the active solvents in nitrate would make short work of the house paint and It would sem that trying to blend the repair paint to the existing paint could be a problem. See ya Chuck S |
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Painting with Latex House Paint
On 14 Mar 2006 05:05:17 -0800, ChuckSlusarczyk
wrote: In article , Orval Fairbairn says... The only major caveat here is that you use "greige" (sp) Dacron, which has not been pre-shrunk. Most of the polyester that you buy in fabric stores has been shrunk already and will not taughten up under heat. That property is what Ceconite, Stits, etc. use to maintain a nice, tight cover. The dope, paint, etc. is there only to provide UV protection, fill the pores, give a finish, etc. It is also because the fabric is already taught that you use non-taughtening butyrate dope, or you can (will) warp things. The Sheath lining has not been shrunk and will work just like Ceconite ,Stits etc. I used a nitrate based dope for my first coats and my final coats were Randolph butayrate dopes.My plane is in the EAA museum and is almost 30 years old and looks great. See ya Chuck Could not find sheath lining, but did find 1.7 oz polyester sheer window covering material in 118 inch width for $9 canadian per running yard. Shrinks up to 20%. Just did a small test panel with Zinsser Bullseye 123 water based primer. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** |
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Painting with Latex House Paint
On 14 Mar 2006 21:03:51 -0800, ChuckSlusarczyk
wrote: In article , Orval Fairbairn says... It sounds like you did it right! A lot of the fabric store Dacron is pre-shrunk. People also used to make the mistake of applying butyrate directly to the Dacron -- it has very poor adhesion and will peel off. You need the nitrate to prime it witâ„¢ something that will stick to the Dacron. Now -- how well does latex stick to the fabric, or do they use some other kind of primer? You have to use a thinned down nitrate to encapsulate the weave .Nitrate does this very well. Most paints will skin over the top of the fabric and eventually peel off like sunburnt skin. Been there done that :-) I suppose the house paints will go over Nitrate OK but I wonder about making a repair to the fabric .I would think that the active solvents in nitrate would make short work of the house paint and It would sem that trying to blend the repair paint to the existing paint could be a problem. See ya Chuck S This Zinsser Bullseye sticks to ANYTHING including ceramic tile without sanding, and seems to have encapsulated the fibers very well. Doing some testing. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** |
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Painting with Latex House Paint
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:30:05 -0800, Smitty Two
wrote: In article .com, "Denny" wrote: Acrylic Latex gloss house paint is the nearest thing to immortality in modern paints... UV reflective, water proof, non shrinking, tough, resists most solvents, really good stuff... You don't need anything "under" the paint to block the UV... The whole point of exterior paint is that it blocks UV and is waterproof... Many in the home boat builder ranks consider it theworld's best kept secret for finishing boats... You can buy 2 part Linear Polyurethane at $500 a gallon, or you can get Sherman WIlliams at the discount store... Your call... denny Does it stick to aluminum? Tin can pilots want to know. This stuff sticks to aluminum. It is also a rust inhibitor on steel. It sticks to just about anything any water based or oil based paint will stick to, only in most cases better. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** |
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Painting with Latex House Paint
As the guys pointed out, just think "BullsEye", and it sticks...
denny |
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