alexis park inn and aviation videos

"PD" == Peter Duniho writes:
PD And you're posting that here because, why?

PD how is that an
PD on-topic post here?

Haven't you noticed? r.a.piloting has been the effective r.a.misc for
years.

Well, Marty's ours and we're keeping him.

LOL. Love it. You're a good man Monty! I say we keep both Martin
and Jay. :-)

The Monk

"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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[...]
Anway, apologies again for this being so off topic. But I just feel
it's not good for those who actually pay for their NSP to have to put
up with crap like that.

Well, if I were paying Supernews directly, you can bet I'd switch in a
heartbeat. Their service is included in a broader contract for my
broadband service, which I'm otherwise satisfied with. I can only
pressure them so much, until I have to put up or shut up.

Yes, I'm in the same boat. I get SN through my ISP for "free".


I have a suspicion that if Supernews *did* comment on their block of
Newsfeeds, I'd find myself thinking it was reasonable. My main
complaint is not the block, so much as it is their unwillingness to talk
about it. So far, not enough to make me drop my whole Internet package.

My suspicion is that if they admited to blocking Newsfeeds,
it would give them bad press and cause them to loose some
customers. Most companies don't give a fluck about loosing a
few customers...there's always more suckers to replace them.
But perhaps they feel they might loose too many.

Or perhaps they'd get a bad rap amongst other NSP's.

Brian
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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My suspicion is that if they admited to blocking Newsfeeds,
it would give them bad press and cause them to loose some
customers.

They may have some irrational thought process like that, but there's no
logical reason for them to withhold the information.

Assuming they have a valid reason to block Newsfeeds, I can't imagine any
customer leaving them over the issue. And they shouldn't be worried about
libel, since as long as they have a truthful reason for blocking Newsfeeds,
saying something bad about Newsfeeds isn't actionable.

And of course, there's the point that whether they admit it or not, it is
blatantly obvious that they ARE blocking Newsfeeds, and are doing so
intentionally. That much is evident simply by their behavior.

I certainly have run into my share of irrational people in customer support
roles. It's nothing new for me to be running into it with this issue.

Illogical people are the bane of my existence.

Pete

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:26:19 -0800, Peter Duniho wrote:

My impression of his post is that somehow, email is going around advertising
your hotel by using the aviation video page as a lure.

ACK.

I have no evidence that that is actually happening;

I only received the mail as a forward from a froward ... you know. The type
of mails that go 5x around the globe.

I'm simply interpreting
Martin's post. Of course, he provided no real evidence about the origin of
the email, so any such claim on his part (intended or not) would be empty.

you have to take my word that I received the mail with the quoted text.

Pete

#m
--
[...] Then I drove home with one eye glued to the rearview mirror.
Didn¹t see anything suspicious but if I turn up missing one day,
just forward my mail to General Delivery, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7624.shtml

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:12:30 -0800, Peter Duniho wrote:

Of course, since he didn't bother to provide any details about the email
he's talking about, there's no real evidence it was sent for the sole
purpose of advertising.

I quoted the whole email including subject. Only the headers are missing.
And since the mail came from our system the headers are not of much help.

#m
--
[...] Then I drove home with one eye glued to the rearview mirror.
Didn¹t see anything suspicious but if I turn up missing one day,
just forward my mail to General Delivery, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7624.shtml

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:12:30 -0800, Peter Duniho wrote:

None of the videos represent a potential loss of income (in contrast to the
music file sharing Martin's comparing you with), and I doubt anyone would be
able to come up with a valid claim of economic damages.

Hah! If I download music there is no economic damage. I won't by the CD. So
prove the loss for the music industry.

#m
--
[...] Then I drove home with one eye glued to the rearview mirror.
Didn¹t see anything suspicious but if I turn up missing one day,
just forward my mail to General Delivery, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7624.shtml

I only received the mail as a forward from a froward ... you know. The type
of mails that go 5x around the globe.

I'm simply interpreting
Martin's post. Of course, he provided no real evidence about the origin of
the email, so any such claim on his part (intended or not) would be empty.

you have to take my word that I received the mail with the quoted text.

Well, it wasn't an email from me, I'll tell you that much.

Quite frankly, the video page has gotten WAY out of hand. I now spend
about 30 minutes per day -- which is 29 minutes more than I've got so
spare -- maintaining that page, with new submissions coming in every
day. I don't promote the page, and never have -- but pilots are a
tight-knit group. Once they take a liking to something, they post it
EVERYWHERE.

And some of the "spotters" (as the regulars call themselves) are just
fanatical! In a video description I posted that an aircraft was
taking off from the USS Ticonderoga when, in fact, it was off the USS
Oriskany. JESSSUSSS H. YOU-KNOW-WHO -- you'd have thought that I had
killed the fire chief, or something. I got email from all over the
world about that one.

Take a look at the video entitled "AC-130 over Mosul -- NOT". That
video has generated intense interest, with half the folks saying "that
ain't a Spectre in action", the other half saying "it's helicopter
gunships" -- and the OTHER other half saying it's a mixture of both. My
technical advisor has said it's not, so I changed the title -- and
****ed off half of the US military...

Actually, what got the thing rolling was when our webpage was posted as
a "Cool Site" in some British magazine. From that point on, the videos
have just come in like crazy.

But it's fun. If only it took less time.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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Hah! If I download music there is no economic damage. I won't by the CD.

There is, however, a CD for sale to buy.

So prove the loss for the music industry.

I don't need to. The law presumes it.

Pete

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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I quoted the whole email including subject. Only the headers are missing.
And since the mail came from our system the headers are not of much help.

You are claiming that your own email system sent out a piece of spam
advertising Jay's hotel through the use of the aviation videos page?

It seems to me you should be looking at your own email system then, rather
than haranguing Jay (and the rest of this newsgroup).

Pete