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Old July 12th 04, 01:22 AM
JDupre5762
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If the last 5 annuals were done and the logs state that all AD's were coplied
with,
why would the next IA have to spent more time. Just make sure that new AD's
are
complied with.


The first annual I ever did to a Commanche is a good example of what can happen
from trusting the previous IA too much. Since I had never done a Commanche I
wanted to get as familiar as I could by reading every AD against the aircraft
and then inspecting them on the aircraft to see what had been involved. I
found no less than three ADs that had been completely pencil whipped years
before. At least one of them was a recurring AD illegally signed off as not
needing future compliance.

Personally I never trust an "All ADs complied with" entry. To be precise you
are legally signing that you complied with every AD regardless of previous
compliance. The local FSDO's really hate to see that type of sign off. Better
to write "All ADs checked for compliance" through the particular bi weekly
issue current at the time of sign off. I also write up each individual AD
compliance that I do in the logbook as well as keep a listing of AD compliance.
That way I am covered. Because ADs are published in the Federal Register they
have the legal strength of Federal law, I want to be sure I have done it right.

John Dupre'

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Old July 12th 04, 01:33 AM
JDupre5762
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One shop will say $700.00 for the anual another $1000.00 and
the third at 1400.00. I am sure that inspection tome should be the same. Shop
rates can vary, but how much??


In the New England area shop rates vary from $50 an hour to $80 an hour on
averag. My shop is $67 an hour. Lots of shops give away annual labor in order
to gain money on parts sales and follow on business. Other shops have decided
to bill accurately and completely for every job from the start. I always
stress that the fixed price is for the inspection and the labor to gain access
but does not include service items and repairs. We record time in tenths of an
hour increments.

Again why do shops give an estimate to do the annual, then add for additional
parts and labor.


Because I generally know how long the actual inspection will take. That is one
fixed cost in the entire annual process that I can guarrantee. Our shop
decided some time ago that the fixed rates established by the manufacturers
seem to low and addded 5 to 10 hours to most of them based on our own time
reports provided by our mechanics.

The cost of parts and additional labor to correct discrepancies cannot really
be known unless you see the aircraft regularly between annuals and sometimes
not even then.

John Dupre'

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Old July 12th 04, 02:07 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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Hankal wrote:

If the last 5 annuals were done and the logs state that all AD's were coplied
with,
why would the next IA have to spent more time.


Because the new IA is guaranteeing that all the ADs have been taken care of. The new
IA is going to have to verify this or risk losing his or her license.

George Patterson
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In Tennessee, it's evangelism.
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Old July 12th 04, 11:37 AM
Paul Sengupta
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"Hankal" wrote in message
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What does it cost for your annual?


Just under £2000.

Haven't had to have any work done at either of the two annuals
I've had so far (apart from the initial "civilianising" star annual).

Paul



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Old July 16th 04, 03:41 PM
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Hankal wrote:

What does it cost for your annual?


Just got the bill for mine. The basic inspection was $480. This was owner-assisted,
so nothing was charged for things like pulling panels. Miscellaneous supplies brought
the cost up to nearly $500. Sales tax of 6% applies.

In addition to the annual, the Lycoming crankshaft bore inspection was nearly due,
cables were found to require adjustment, one of the exhaust studs needed replacement,
some fabric work was required, and I bought into the ADLog system, so the total bill
was $896.55 plus tax. The cost of items which I purchased elsewhere (oil, dope, etc.)
kicked it up to around $1,100.

George Patterson
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Old July 18th 04, 11:39 PM
Newps
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Hankal wrote:

What does it cost for your annual?


Here in Montana the flat rate for my annual is $475 at 6S3. I do none
of that owner assisted crap. Did it once, never again on this plane.
Maybe when I get my 206. With the other maintenence I usually spend
between 1 and 2 grand.

 




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