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Aren't You Happy You Voted For Baby Bush? (ATC Privatization)



 
 
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Old August 1st 03, 09:42 PM
Newps
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Larry Dighera wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:54:04 GMT, Newps wrote in
Message-Id: wp0Wa.15560$Oz4.5543@rwcrnsc54:


The user fees for an airplane that is 5000 pounds or less is a flat
$60 Canadian per year. In the grand scheme of things that is nothing,
I pay more than that to the state of Montana each year for my "tabs".



Have you any idea what you pay into the Aviation Trust Fund via
aviation fuel taxes annually?


Yep. Zip. Although I do build more than my fair share of the
interstate highway system.

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Old August 2nd 03, 02:09 AM
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In article , "RKHenry"
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and
80% of usenet acrimony is caused by 20% of the postings.
(Which implies that 80% of usenet postings are informative and useful.)


or ignored.

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Old August 2nd 03, 03:12 AM
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Ryan Dorosh wrote:
30"x30" Sony flat, touch panels. No need for paper strips.


If there aren't any non-computer-based flight records, what
happens if the power glitches or the computer goes on the fritz?

Cheers,
Sydney (computer user who has learnt the hard way to Keep Paper Copies)

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Old August 2nd 03, 03:20 AM
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"Sydney Hoeltzli" wrote in message
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If there aren't any non-computer-based flight records, what
happens if the power glitches or the computer goes on the fritz?


Well, if that happens, flight data is lost.


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Old August 2nd 03, 03:28 AM
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Sydney Hoeltzli wrote:
Ryan Dorosh wrote:

30"x30" Sony flat, touch panels. No need for paper strips.



If there aren't any non-computer-based flight records, what
happens if the power glitches or the computer goes on the fritz?


All facilities have their own back up power, usually a giant diesel
generator. We turn ours on anytime there is lightening in the area.
Although it is set up to come on automatically if the commercial power
goes out, that power bump will make all the computers reset, so we would
lose our data for about 30 seconds. There is more than one computer so
if one goes belly up it really doesn't matter.

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Old August 2nd 03, 03:35 AM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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All facilities have their own back up power, usually a giant diesel
generator. We turn ours on anytime there is lightening in the area.
Although it is set up to come on automatically if the commercial power
goes out, that power bump will make all the computers reset, so we would
lose our data for about 30 seconds. There is more than one computer so
if one goes belly up it really doesn't matter.


Yeah. And a DC-10 cannot lose all hydraulic power.


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Old August 2nd 03, 03:35 AM
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Sydney Hoeltzli writes:

If there aren't any non-computer-based flight records, what happens
if the power glitches or the computer goes on the fritz?


Hopefully, they have a bit of redundancy built into their system.
There are a lot more critical things that ATC that don't keep paper
copies any more, if you want anything to worry about tonight.

I don't know if privatization would work in the U.S., but I am another
mostly-happy Nav Canada user. The fee really is small in the greater
scheme of things, and the service is good. Our local controllers
actually sponsored a contest last year to encourage small planes to do
*more* circuits at CYOW (Ottawa), a busy class C international airport
with lots of airliner traffic (in contrast, the airport authority
would be happy to see our tailfins disappearing into the sunset, so
that they could let developers build revenue-producing hotels on the
north GA field).


All the best,


David

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Old August 2nd 03, 03:41 AM
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"David Megginson" wrote in message
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Hopefully, they have a bit of redundancy built into their system.
There are a lot more critical things that ATC that don't keep paper
copies any more, if you want anything to worry about tonight.


Like what?


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Old August 2nd 03, 04:48 AM
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the sun continues to produce light
for now





"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"David Megginson" wrote in message
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Hopefully, they have a bit of redundancy built into their system.
There are a lot more critical things that ATC that don't keep paper
copies any more, if you want anything to worry about tonight.


Like what?




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Old August 2nd 03, 12:49 PM
David Megginson
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"Steven P. McNicoll" writes:

Hopefully, they have a bit of redundancy built into their system.
There are a lot more critical things that ATC that don't keep paper
copies any more, if you want anything to worry about tonight.


Like what?


Missile guidance systems.

Most government records about you.


All the best,


David

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