Margy is famous!

If you've heard of a product called NEWSCOM, that's our "bread and
butter"... It's an Inserter control system for SLS's, 72's and 99's.
Besides NEWSCOM, we also do Stacker control upgrades and Inkjet systems
for labelling on bottomwraps and on TMCs. We're also going to be
producing a Bundle Distribution System next year...

Basically, we do software and controls from the Pressroom Wall to the
Loading Bay Window...

Ow, ow, ow! Stop it -- you're hurting my head!

I haven't heard those words in close to 18 months -- nor have I used any
"newspaper brain cells". (Perhaps they've regenerated, after being damaged
for 22 years?

So YOU'RE the guy we used to curse in the middle of the night, eh? God, I
can't tell you how many times I had a D.C. full of contract drivers, waiting
for the papers that were late because of some "mailroom glitch"...

There's nothing like trying to placate a couple of dozen ****ed off guys,
who are NOT being paid extra to wait for their newspapers. When the Cedar
Rapids Gazette (our primary customer) went "live" with their new mailroom
(and press) systems a couple of years ago, this scene was played out every
night, for months...

We used to sit around sticking pins in little "Judah" dolls -- did you
experience any unexplained pains during this time? :-)

Anyway, do you do any work with Lee Enterprise? They own something close to
30 (maybe more, now?) papers throughout the Midwest. I worked for (and
with) them for 12 years, too...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Robert Moore" wrote in message
. 7...
Yes Pete, I see the smiley, but I still take it as a personal
insult

Whatever. Be insulted all you like. I've run into plenty of folks from
rural Appalachia that I could not even communicate with. My post was
intended as a joke, but certainly it has some truth to it which is IMHO what
makes it funny.

Peter Duniho wrote:

Of course, that story was obviously translated from whatever the folks
living in the Appalachian "hollers" speak. I don't know what it is, but it
isn't English.

It is if you live there.

George Patterson
To a pilot, altitude is like money - it is possible that having too much
could prove embarassing, but having too little is always fatal.

Peter Duniho wrote:

Whatever. Be insulted all you like. I've run into plenty of folks from
rural Appalachia that I could not even communicate with.

That may mean that you speak worse English than they do.

George Patterson
To a pilot, altitude is like money - it is possible that having too much
could prove embarassing, but having too little is always fatal.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...
That may mean that you speak worse English than they do.

Well, there's English and then there's English. I admit, they might be
speaking Chaucer's English or some such thing. Regardless, a translation is
necessary. I speak the current version of English quite well.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:QRakb.169068$%h1.160953@sccrnsc02:

Ow, ow, ow! Stop it -- you're hurting my head!

"Just when I thought I was out, they PULL me back in!"

I haven't heard those words in close to 18 months -- nor have I used
any "newspaper brain cells". (Perhaps they've regenerated, after
being damaged for 22 years?

So YOU'RE the guy we used to curse in the middle of the night, eh?
God, I can't tell you how many times I had a D.C. full of contract
drivers, waiting for the papers that were late because of some
"mailroom glitch"...

There's nothing like trying to placate a couple of dozen ****ed off
guys, who are NOT being paid extra to wait for their newspapers. When
the Cedar Rapids Gazette (our primary customer) went "live" with their
new mailroom (and press) systems a couple of years ago, this scene was
played out every night, for months...

We used to sit around sticking pins in little "Judah" dolls -- did you
experience any unexplained pains during this time? :-)

Nah... Our stuff works! Besides, many of the papers where we do
installations don't have DCs. They go out the window with route-based
bundle breaks to "ma and pa" carriers who won't stick around if their stuff
is late. They gotta get back home to get their kids off to school, or get
toe their day job!

I think the worst holdup I can remember we had was in Colorado. The
inserter was running so nicely, the operator kept bumping up the speed...
Finally, she got the thing up to about 22k/hr (faster than I have ever seen
an inserter run in production!) All of a sudden, "BANG!" - it happened. A
few of the single-sheet inserts were blowing past the pockets from the wind
generated by the jackets at 22k... Instead of falling inside the pockets,
they were blowing all over and in between. Eventually, a few of them got
wrapped around the main drive sprocket, and knocked the collator chain off
the sprocket. That in turn broke a series of pockets and brought the whole
machine to a screeching halt.

It took over an hour to get things back together... Actually, most of the
time was spent trying to get the collator chain to move at all.

Sure enough, we got blamed!

Anyway, do you do any work with Lee Enterprise? They own something
close to 30 (maybe more, now?) papers throughout the Midwest. I worked
for (and with) them for 12 years, too...

I know the name and the logo, but I haven't met anyone over there. I was
going to use the "East Coast" excuse (both Miracom and NEWSTEC, our key
distributor, are based in the NorthEast), but looking at their website it
seems they have a couple papers out my way now, too - upstate NY and PA...
According to E&P they are up to 38...

Hmmm... I will have to get on that...


Thanks!

Judah

Whachyous talkin' 'bout? Us New Yoakers talks perfectly good english!

Besides, our english comes from the Dutch!

Robert Moore wrote in
. 7:

"Peter Duniho" wrote

Of course, that story was obviously translated from whatever the
folks living in the Appalachian "hollers" speak. I don't know what it
is, but it isn't English.

Yes Pete, I see the smiley, but I still take it as a personal
insult having been born up Shelby Hollow in Shelbiana, Pike Co.,
Kentucky where the almost pure English descendants spoke some-
thing a lot more akin to the English spoken in the British Islands
than do many New Yorkers. :-)

Bob Moore

Of course, that story was obviously translated from whatever the folks
living in the Appalachian "hollers" speak. I don't know what it is, but it
isn't English.

Pete, you might want to read up on the history of the language. Them
folks in the hollers speak very good English. You don't understand it
because you know only contemporary Amurrican.

I met a fellow in Manteo, NC, a year ago who spoke the most beautiful
"hillbilly" I had ever heard. It was like music. I would glady have
bought him beer all afternoon just to hear him talk.

Next time you have the opportunity, listen carefully the Queen of
England speak. She pronounces many words just the way folks in the
Applalachians do.

Surely you will agree that the Queen speaks English.

P.S. Back in 1946, when I arrived at Parris Island, I could not
understand the "redneck" kids from rural Alabama.

As I look back on it, I'm not sure it was their fault, or mine.

vince norris

Peter Duniho wrote:

I speak the current version of English quite well.

As long as you don't leave your back yard.

George Patterson
To a pilot, altitude is like money - it is possible that having too much
could prove embarassing, but having too little is always fatal.

Ow, ow, ow! Stop it -- you're hurting my head!

"Just when I thought I was out, they PULL me back in!"

No way. If I ever go back to newspapers, it will be back into the marketing
side, period. No more dealing with drunk contract haulers at 2 AM, thank
you!

I much preferred my years in marketing, where I never had to actually *do*
any work. All I had to do was come up with ideas that *others* had to
implement. (And if the concepts failed in the field, it was OBVIOUSLY the
fault of the soldiers on the ground who were incapable of properly
implementing the plan -- right?)

Too bad running my newspaper distribution company was so danged profitable.
It just about ruined my health -- but newspapers were willing to pay
whatever it took to remove *that* particular headache from their hands...

Nah... Our stuff works! Besides, many of the papers where we do
installations don't have DCs. They go out the window with route-based
bundle breaks to "ma and pa" carriers who won't stick around if their
stuff
is late. They gotta get back home to get their kids off to school, or get
to their day job!

Must be using employee-run distribution/circulation operations at those
newspapers. Newspapers that utilize contract distributors (like my old
company) don't give a **** whether the papers go out on time or not -- it
isn't *their* problem to deal with the ****ed-off drivers. It's a whole
different attitude at newspapers with employee district managers running the
carriers! (I've worked in both systems...)

I think the worst holdup I can remember we had was in Colorado. The
inserter was running so nicely, the operator kept bumping up the speed...
Finally, she got the thing up to about 22k/hr (faster than I have ever
seen
an inserter run in production!) All of a sudden, "BANG!" - it happened. A
few of the single-sheet inserts were blowing past the pockets from the
wind
generated by the jackets at 22k... Instead of falling inside the pockets,
they were blowing all over and in between. Eventually, a few of them got
wrapped around the main drive sprocket, and knocked the collator chain off
the sprocket. That in turn broke a series of pockets and brought the whole
machine to a screeching halt.

Ouch. Been there, done that.

The worst hold ups I've seen were when the Cedar Rapids Gazette brought
their new mailroom and press equipment on-line. Although their primary
problems were press-related (they actually ended up bringing suit against
Goss, it was so bad -- a losing battle, since Goss was bankrupt by that
time...), it always seemed that an inserter or conveyor would go down
whenever the press was "up".

We actually had to deliver newspapers at NOON one Sunday -- the papers were
NINE hours late, coming off the press. Many of my drivers had to go to
their regular jobs, and the ONLY thing that saved us was the fact that it
happened on a Sunday -- otherwise we would have lost them all.

My stomach churns just thinking about that day. And there were sooo many
like that, over the years...

I know the name and the logo, but I haven't met anyone over there. I was
going to use the "East Coast" excuse (both Miracom and NEWSTEC, our key
distributor, are based in the NorthEast), but looking at their website it
seems they have a couple papers out my way now, too - upstate NY and PA...
According to E&P they are up to 38...

I finally just let my Editor & Publisher subscription lapse, after some 15+
years as a subscriber. Now that we've survived 14 months with the inn --
thus far, successfully -- I'm hopeful that I can let the rest of my
newspaper skills atrophy...

Wow -- they've got 38 products now? Impressive.

If you do hit Lee up, be prepared -- they're so tight, they make Gannett
look like drunken sailors... :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"