Presidential TFR @ Kill Devil Hills

The point is that I didn't purport to be a military pilot while avoiding
duty.

No, the point is that you were never a military pilot, while George
Bush was, yet you take it on yourself to impugn his patriotism.

He served two years on active duty. How many did you serve? None,
right?

As for his hours, I believe they are on the web, on the same place I
found out about his military record. Interestingly, he learned to fly
in a Cessna. That was the first I knew that the Air Force used Cessnas
as trainers.

He didn't purport to be a military pilot: he *was* a military pilot.
He wasn't a combat pilot, but that is another matter entirely. Few
F-102 pilots ever served in Vietnam, because F-102s didn't have guns.
The few who went, transitioned to other aircraft.


all the best -- Dan Ford
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:32:41 -0500 Cub Driver wrote:


No, the point is that you were never a military pilot, while George
Bush was, yet you take it on yourself to impugn his patriotism.

Again I never purported to be a military pilot. You're relying on fallacies
to bolster your argument because I don' think you've really got an argument.
Dubya's service record is sketchy. The fact that he will ground GA pilots
on the single most important day for GA in 100 years tells me that he can't
really be a pilot. I mean a true pilot, not one that flew around in a military
jet because his Daddy had "friends". His disappearance for 1.5 years is
documented. The trip to Kill Devil is another political stunt, like flying
into Iraq. If he was a real pilot he'd be flying a plane as PIC to Kill
Devil.


R. Hubbell


He served two years on active duty. How many did you serve? None,
right?

As for his hours, I believe they are on the web, on the same place I
found out about his military record. Interestingly, he learned to fly
in a Cessna. That was the first I knew that the Air Force used Cessnas
as trainers.

He didn't purport to be a military pilot: he *was* a military pilot.
He wasn't a combat pilot, but that is another matter entirely. Few
F-102 pilots ever served in Vietnam, because F-102s didn't have guns.
The few who went, transitioned to other aircraft.


all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

Cub Driver wrote in message . ..
It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing in
the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want to know.

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

Apparently he did a pretty good job. Under Baby Bush's National Guard
watch there was not a single VietCon attach on Texas. Not quite the
exciting military career his father had.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
om...

Apparently he did a pretty good job. Under Baby Bush's National Guard
watch there was not a single VietCon attach on Texas. Not quite the
exciting military career his father had.


So the purpose of the National Guard was to prevent Vietcong attacks on
Texas?

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
news:A9uDb.13697$pY.1556@fed1read04...

It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because
a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing
in
the National Guard?


He was flying F-102s.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:42:29 GMT "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because
a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing
in
the National Guard?


He was flying F-102s.

That all?


R. Hubbell

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:42:29 GMT "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
news:A9uDb.13697$pY.1556@fed1read04...

It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because
a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing
in
the National Guard?


He was flying F-102s.

Hours logged as PIC? Where's the bragging and the boasting? Military pilots
wear their logged hours as a badge of honor. Haven't seen that from Dubya.



R. Hubbell

In article KtGDb.18366$pY.5656@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He was flying F-102s.

Hours logged as PIC? Where's the bragging and the boasting? Military
pilots
wear their logged hours as a badge of honor.

what nonsense.

--
Bob Noel

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:53:58 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article KtGDb.18366$pY.5656@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He was flying F-102s.

Hours logged as PIC? Where's the bragging and the boasting? Military
pilots
wear their logged hours as a badge of honor.

what nonsense.

Which part, you mean that he was PIC in F-102s? I am beginning to believe that
too.


R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel

"R. Hubbell" wrote in
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snip
It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot.
Because a pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell
was he doing in the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't
want to know.


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