Certificate- Wallet or Bag?

It had never occurred to me that a random pokice officer could
ask me for my pilot's licence because of the AOPA sticker on my car,

Some how I don't believe that he could.. unless he is investigating why you
landed on his road. and not the runway... but then that would not be
"random" would it.

BT

EDR,


You are not required to submit to a ramp check.

In fact, you are. The Federal Aviation Act, which created the FAA,
gives the FAA authority to monitor aviation activity. If you are
asked by a person who identifies him or herself as an FAA inspector,
you are obligated to show your pilot certificate if you have it with
you.

I'm curious as to the basis for your statement above.

All the best,
Rick

Robert,

We've also been cautioned to just
let the officer "see" the certificate and never to actually "hand" it
over.

Someone's been feeding you old wive's tales. Don't believe the crap
about not flying oversquare and that downwind turns increase the
airplane's stall speed either.

There's nothing wrong with handing your certificate to a law
enforcement officer or FAA inspector, just as you would your driver's
license during a traffic stop. Years ago someone started the urban
myth that if you handed your certificate to an FAA inspector that he
or she could consider it a surrender and keep it and you'd play heck
getting it back. It's not so. The FARs specifically define what you
have to do to surrender your certificate...to start with, you must do
so in writing for the surrender to be effective.

If an FAA inspector tried to hang on to your certificate during a ramp
check the amount of fun you would be able to have at the guy's expense
is impressive. If he were lucky, his next job assignment would be in
Nome. FAA attorneys are aware of this old wive's tale. There have
been some rather strong comments by FAA attorneys about what would
happen to an FAA employee who tried to keep a pilot's certificate
during a ramp check.

All the best,
Rick

I like the paper certificates because I can staple them all together
(pilot, CFI and medical). If all three of them turn out to be plastic,
it will be a lot more bulkier.



Larry Fransson wrote in message news:2004012509125016807%newsgroups@larryandjenny net...
On 2004-01-25 06:29:47 -0800, said:

Where do you keep yours?

Now that my CFI certificate is three times as thick as it used to be, I
keep it on my desk. Can't say I'm looking forward to the day that I have
to replace my pilot certificate. The "plain old" paper certificates are a
lot easier to carry around in one's wallet because they don't take a lot of
room.

In article , Rick Durden
wrote:

EDR,


You are not required to submit to a ramp check.

In fact, you are. The Federal Aviation Act, which created the FAA,
gives the FAA authority to monitor aviation activity. If you are
asked by a person who identifies him or herself as an FAA inspector,
you are obligated to show your pilot certificate if you have it with
you.

I'm curious as to the basis for your statement above.

Statement made by a FSDO Inspector.

I glue a small envelope to the back cover of my log book...certificate,
radio license and medical go in there.

(Rick Durden) writes:

There's nothing wrong with handing your certificate to a law
enforcement officer or FAA inspector, just as you would your driver's
license during a traffic stop.

OK, but what about your medical certificate? Should you physically
release that for "inspection"? What about the infamous Bob Hoover
case, where the rumor says because he naively released physical
possesion of his med certficate, which the inspectors then kept, he
did indeed lose his medical.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
|
| wrote in message
|
| Where do you keep your certificate?
|
| It is 2004, there's a war going on, there's a presidential election
getting
| started, and there's always the endless necessity of taking care of daily
| business.
|
| Please tell me you have something more important to worry about than which
| pocket you keep your certificate in!
|
| Good God!
|
|

Indeed. Another one starting out by saying "It is 2004."

I propose that since it is 2004, we stop saying "It is 2004." Granted,
people might have to think up something intelligent to say instead, or they
might have to shut up, but either one would be fine by me.

"Bob Fry" wrote in message
news | (Rick Durden) writes:
|
| There's nothing wrong with handing your certificate to a law
| enforcement officer or FAA inspector, just as you would your driver's
| license during a traffic stop.
|
| OK, but what about your medical certificate? Should you physically
| release that for "inspection"? What about the infamous Bob Hoover
| case, where the rumor says because he naively released physical
| possesion of his med certficate, which the inspectors then kept, he
| did indeed lose his medical.

Bob Hoover's medical was revoked by letter.

Question

Where do you keep your certificate?

I taped a standard mailing envelope (minus covering flap) inside the
cover of my logbook. I keep my medical, certificate, and CFI's
business card in there.

Said logbook is usually kept in a drawer at home, since it's been over
a year since I've flown as PIC. Since then, I've usually gone up with
my dad, who has an ATP.

However, when I was acting as PIC (and when I will be again this
summer, after I get my tailwheel signoff) the logbook went into my
flightbag with the sectional and E6B.