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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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the problem Martin... is that many of your age don't appreciate what our
fathers and grandfathers did in Europe and in the South Pacific.. and we
hear the same rhetoric all the time.

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000185.html

Martin

When those of use who participated in WWII are dead and gone, you can
rewrite history if you desire. In the mean time, a bit of humility
might be in order.

Your posts write down on all on this news group and at the young age
of 29, you are just starting on lifes path with lots of years to learn
and things to experience.

You certainily don't have the width and depth to be the guru on
piloting on GA or Heavy Iron.

Out political system which you take umbrage with, is our system. It
works for us and must be good, with all who try to come here from
countries around the world.

And a good day to thee Sir.


Big John
Pilot, RNAF


On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:39:10 GMT, Martin Hotze
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:21:20 -0600, Big John wrote:

Don't want to get into the European 'mind set'. So many of you have
forgotten the blood and money we spent

how long will you bring this into account? I was born 30 years after the
war (WWII) *ended*. As I wrote befo you (the allies) did a great job and
I am thankful. But it is too long ago to still pay for it.
I say thank you - nothing more, but nothing less.

BJ

martin

that is rather easy to explain: we even don't really look back into not so
long
ago history. I bet that Germany are already tired of talking about the
time
during the cold war with the Berlin wall and the separation of east and
west.
And this only happened a couple of years ago. So even less think of WWII.
It was
a (tragic) event in history. But here, everybody moves on.

Sadly, that's true here as well. Ask any high school student about World
War II, and many won't know the Allies from the Axis. :-(

when you sit together with folks my age and really have the time and
discuss
this topic (WWII) then they sure appreciate the efforts made by the
allies.

That's good to know. There are several generations of kids not born here
(and all over the world) because of Mr. Hitler, Mr. Hirohito, and Mr.
Mussolini.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:11:20 GMT, john smith wrote:

Martin Hotze wrote:
I am not anti-American per-se
I don't 'hate' all Americans just for their being American (Americans have
a similar choice for being American as I have for being european) - this
would be crazy and very shortminded.
It is the reckless behaviour outside America from those in command (I really
don't care [well - from a human rights standpoint I do care] what you do
within your border).

Well, if it weren't for the messes the Europeans create, we wouldn't be
where we are.
And if it wasn't for the Americans, the world wouldn't be as well off as
it is today.

America saves the world? Parts of the world would be better off, if
they weren't so well-knit together. And we would be better off if we
didn't presume their interests to be ours.

Please make that B-1 recon flight closer to home. Like right on our
southern border, and I'll thank you. It is my right to complain that
they don't. But the Greater World Trade Center still has the power to
refuse me, and give (no, take) my border as if it were a gift. This
for their Greater World Interests. So my pity, my anger, is not with
you. Your tresspass is a serious one.
I cannot see how giving my border could be thought a genuine gift
to the world! What government in their right mind would want it?
What right does anyone have to force it? The power is what they have,
for a 'unified world,' as they see it. I do not see it that way. The
majority of this country, though full of immigrants, does want its
borders controlled. We have natural resource concerns, and cultural
concerns, so we are betrayed. I am astonished.

I've lived in Abilene, Tx; & seen those B-1 torches as they took off
from Dyess. But my home was closer to Regional, which they would
occasionally use for t&gs, or low passes. Sitting on the port (or
inside the house) from several miles away I could hear that incredible
roar as they occasionally took off from there. I think it was the
B-1. I never actually saw one actually take off, and saw only one low
pass. (I'm still not yet a pilot.) But I don't think anything else
could make that sound.

Mike

Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..
what about a death troll?

I fixed your post for you.

"those that fail to study history.. are destined to repeat it.."

--author unknown.. but I think it was G.Patton
BT

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
Big John wrote:

Martin

When those of use who participated in WWII are dead and gone, you can
rewrite history if you desire.


I don't want to rewrite it ... well, maybe it would be good to wipe out
some
parts of history ...

In the mean time, a bit of humility
might be in order.


what else should I say than appreciate the efforts and say thank you?
Payment?
There was - IMHO - enough payment for reparation.

Your posts write down on all on this news group and at the young age
of 29,

29?

you are just starting on lifes path with lots of years to learn
and things to experience.

You certainily don't have the width and depth to be the guru on
piloting on GA or Heavy Iron.


I never claimed that for me.

Out political system which you take umbrage with, is our system.

and you want to imply it everywhere else - or: it takes effect or has its
effects also outside of your country.

It
works for us and must be good, with all who try to come here from
countries around the world.

it is not the worst of all systems. :-)

#m
--
http://www.MoveOn.org/

"BTIZ" wrote in message
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"those that fail to study history.. are destined to repeat it.."

--author unknown.. but I think it was G.Patton

George Sanatayana.

--
John T
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:lsA_b.6232$aZ3.3419@fed1read04...
"those that fail to study history.. are destined to repeat it.."

--author unknown.. but I think it was G.Patton

The quote is: Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it"
and it was George Santayana (1863-1952)