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Old June 12th 04, 04:22 PM
kage
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Default Reagan and AF"1"

On the topic of President Reagan.

After he ordered the Boeing 747's as new Air Force One's, his first two
rides in them were in his CASKET.

Best,
Karl
"remote from Chicago"


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Old June 13th 04, 12:38 AM
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"kage" wrote in message
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On the topic of President Reagan.

After he ordered the Boeing 747's as new Air Force One's, his first two
rides in them were in his CASKET.

Best,
Karl
"remote from Chicago"



Yeah, but think about it. It still wasn't technically AF "1" without G'
DUBBYA on board!



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Old June 13th 04, 07:33 PM
Robert M. Gary
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They mentioned on the news that it was not really "Airforce 1" because
Bush did not fly out to California too.


"Marty" wrote in message news:5vMyc.78


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"kage" wrote in message
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On the topic of President Reagan.

After he ordered the Boeing 747's as new Air Force One's, his first two
rides in them were in his CASKET.

Best,
Karl
"remote from Chicago"



Yeah, but think about it. It still wasn't technically AF "1" without G'
DUBBYA on board!

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Old June 14th 04, 01:48 AM
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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They mentioned on the news that it was not really "Airforce 1" because
Bush did not fly out to California too.



Robert,

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't see that portion of the events myself
but my Dad insisted they called it "AF1".
I just said OK to avoid another senseless argument between us.
;-)

Marty



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Old June 14th 04, 10:33 AM
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but my Dad insisted they called it "AF1".
I just said OK to avoid another senseless argument between us.


I'm sure your dad was right, and that "they" -- the newscasters --
called it Air Force One.

The idea that a plane could have a different name, depending on the
passenger, is not one that is easily grasped. It's like having an
ocean liner that's called the QE II only when the queen is on board.

It must be particularly stressful when Air Force One becomes Air Force
Two.

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Old June 14th 04, 02:18 PM
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I'm sure your dad was right, and that "they" -- the newscasters --
called it Air Force One.

The idea that a plane could have a different name, depending on the
passenger, is not one that is easily grasped. It's like having an
ocean liner that's called the QE II only when the queen is on board.

It must be particularly stressful when Air Force One becomes Air Force
Two.



way back when I took PPL training at East Coast Aerotech at Hanscom AFB (BED)
their training airplanes were called something like Tech 1, Tech 7, or
whatever, not by their N numbers.

Airliners under air traffic control identify themselves by their flight
numbers.

In the case of training flights, it surely alerted the tower people the
aircraft was probably being driven by a student, and instructions like
"expidite approach" would be inappropiate.

In the case of "Air Force One" it more likely means to controllers that nota
all aircraft are created equal. AF 1 is number one to land from 50 miles out!
I'll bet they don't often get told to take a 360 for spacing!

AJW
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Old June 15th 04, 01:52 PM
Ash Wyllie
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Cub Driver opined

but my Dad insisted they called it "AF1".
I just said OK to avoid another senseless argument between us.


I'm sure your dad was right, and that "they" -- the newscasters --
called it Air Force One.


The idea that a plane could have a different name, depending on the
passenger, is not one that is easily grasped. It's like having an
ocean liner that's called the QE II only when the queen is on board.


It must be particularly stressful when Air Force One becomes Air Force
Two.


You mean when George W. Bush is aboard?

Sorry, I couldn't help it.


-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

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Old June 14th 04, 07:11 PM
Robert M. Gary
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"Marty" wrote in message ...
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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They mentioned on the news that it was not really "Airforce 1" because
Bush did not fly out to California too.



Robert,

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't see that portion of the events myself
but my Dad insisted they called it "AF1".
I just said OK to avoid another senseless argument between us.
;-)


Its also little known that "Airfoce 1" is not really A plane. There
are a fleet of planes operated by the president's Airforce
transporation squadron. There are little jets for trips to the vinyard
and medium jets for medium trips to shorter runways. However, everyone
thinks of the 747 (of which there are actually 2). Airforce 1 does not
travel alone either. There are a fleet of C130's that carry things
like the motorcade (the president doesn't need to wait for a rental
car, he brings his bullet proof car with him.

-Robert
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Old June 14th 04, 07:22 PM
Shiver Me Timbers
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Airforce 1 does not travel alone either.

There are a fleet of C130's that carry things
like the motorcade


he brings his bullet proof car with him.


Curious question to the group.

Anyone know how much it costs for all of this
infrastructure and support staff etc. to travel
from one location to another.
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Old June 14th 04, 08:06 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Its also little known that "Airfoce 1" is not really A plane. There
are a fleet of planes operated by the president's Airforce
transporation squadron. There are little jets for trips to the vinyard
and medium jets for medium trips to shorter runways. However, everyone
thinks of the 747 (of which there are actually 2). Airforce 1 does not
travel alone either. There are a fleet of C130's that carry things
like the motorcade (the president doesn't need to wait for a rental
car, he brings his bullet proof car with him.


The car travels by C-17.


 




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