Reagan and AF"1"

I can't speak to a President, but have flown a governor and a couple of
lieutenant governors in the Cessna. I believe that they use "California 1 (or
2)" for the state-owned aircraft when the gov is aboard, but for us, it was just
plain old "November Seven-Three Charlie Quebec".

It was kind of weird, though, to look over in the copilot seat and see a
governor with the map light on, at midnight, halfway between Grass Valley and
Sacramento, reading Homer...in Greek.

Jim



(Mark)
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Now, if for some reason he flew in my Cessna 172, what would I use as
-a call sign? Since my plane is not owned by the military, would I use
-a special call sign? I know the chances of the President flying with
-me is *remote*, but I wonder what would be used in this case....



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
news

A couple of days before the President
arrives the support stuff comes in. You'll have cargo planes full of
limos,
suburbans, Blackhawk helicopters, secret service agents, etc.

Unless they use several airports, it's not quite that bad. I live
across the bay from the former Pease AFB, which both Bush I and Bush
II use(d) regularly because of the Kennebunk connection,

In that case some stuff is already there, lessening the crush of traffic.
Since I have been here at BIL Bush I, Clinton and W have been here. In each
case we get at least three military cargo planes. They fly in all the
limos, suburbans, Blackhawks, etc. Then you have the local guard units from
Great Falls that bring in their choppers. Secret Service agents appear out
of thin air. They hook up the phone line in the tower and we get to BS with
the low level secret service agent in the tower while the prez is in the
area.

"Mark" wrote in message
om...


Now, if for some reason he flew in my Cessna 172, what would I use as
a call sign?

The President is always flown by a member of the military so your plane
would be Air Force 1 if flown by the Air Force, Navy 1 if flown by the Navy,
etc.



Since my plane is not owned by the military, would I use
a special call sign? I know the chances of the President flying with
me is *remote*,

Your chances are exactly zero. When I was in Grand Forks the secretary of
Transportation at the time, Sam Skinner, showed up to visit UND. He toured
the tower so we got to meet. Then he went up in one of UND's CAP 10
aerobatic aircraft. His callsign was Transport 1, same as the G IV he flew
in on.

"Mark" wrote in message
om...

OK, Got a question.

If the President flys on an Air Force plane, it's called "Air Force
1". If he flys on a Marine Helicopter, it's "Marine 1". I assume
that a Navy or Army aircraft will be "Army 1" and "Navy 1".


Correct.



Now, if for some reason he flew in my Cessna 172, what would I use as
a call sign?


Executive One.

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...

Not even worth contemplating...

There's no way on earth the Secret Service would let the President fly on
anything other than a military aircraft, if for no other reason than
keeping
the communications links "connected".


Nixon did it once.

"Newps" wrote in message
...

The President is always flown by a member of the military so your plane
would be Air Force 1 if flown by the Air Force, Navy 1 if flown by the
Navy,
etc.


Nonsense. The callsign is determined by the aircraft, not the pilot. "Air
Force One" is used only by USAF aircraft. All civil aircraft use "Executive
One".

Is their some particular reason why you consistently fail to put an adequate
amount of information in your posts?



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...

Not even worth contemplating...

There's no way on earth the Secret Service would let the President fly
on
anything other than a military aircraft, if for no other reason than
keeping
the communications links "connected".


Nixon did it once.

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...

Is their some particular reason why you consistently fail to put an
adequate
amount of information in your posts?


What additional information would you like?

I see this lack frequently in your posts, or I wouldn't mention it.

Remember the old journalist's mantra: Who, What, When, How, Were?

You only gave us "Nixon" and "non-military plane"...




"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...

Is their some particular reason why you consistently fail to put an
adequate
amount of information in your posts?


What additional information would you like?

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...

I see this lack frequently in your posts, or I wouldn't mention it.


I think the problem is on your end.



Remember the old journalist's mantra: Who, What, When, How, Were?

You only gave us "Nixon" and "non-military plane"...


Who: Nixon

What: Fly on something other than a military aircraft

When: During the Nixon administration

How: The same way other aircraft fly

We ?