Wrong pilot detained for TFR violation

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:31:08 GMT, Roger Halstead
wrote in
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 04:35:34 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 03:16:34 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
m6XRc.276981$Oq2.266297@attbi_s52::

I now check with Flight Service
for TFRs -- but I always called them for a flight briefing before each
flight anyway.

Well, almost always:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...faabc6e&rnum=1

Shucks, that don't always do it either.
I had a flight brienfing, (CAVU) with flight following. It was a
beautiful clear day. I hit turbulence so strong south of Toledo the
Deb stalled in level flight at Va.

It only existed for maybe 5 to 10 miles and then it was smooth again.

As Mr. Honeck stated:

"Turns out that they [Cedar Rapids Approach Control] are getting
PIREPs from pilots all over, reporting moderate to severe
turbulence up to 6000 feet, and beyond."

It's pretty clear, that had Mr. Honeck availed himself of all the
available information as mandated by regulation, he would have been
issued a PIREP for turbulence. And his absolute statement in this
thread concerning obtaining a FSS flight briefing before departing
conflicts what he wrote in that message thread.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:fKXRc.277186$Oq2.192945@attbi_s52...
But, hey, we're getting a Rain
Forest built in Iowa City, at the federal gubmint's expense, too.

I was thinking of this the other day. I was listenning to the local radio
here in Newbury (Kick FM 105.6) and an advert came on for a
rain forest....

http://www.livingrainforest.org/

I never knew this existed!

Paul

In article ,
(Jens Krueger) wrote:

But not till after we fix the mess in the Middle East, of course.

That the US very much helped to create.

Bull. The middle east had the hatred and wars and killings before
the US was even a country.

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

"Jens Krueger" wrote in message ..

Closure of the, what, 10 airports in the DC ADIZ? The Seattle TFRs? How
about the TSA and all that comes with that?

No airports have closed. DCA is effectively closed to GA. VKX, CGS, and
W32 are only open after stringent scrutiny of the pilots and closed to transients
(although businesses at these fields are failing or moving). The only official closure
of ain ADIZ airport was 1W2 which has been scheduled for demolition for several
years now. There are 49 active airports in the ADIZ (of which 23 are public use).

Getting in or out of these requires extensive delays for no reason.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:fKXRc.277186$Oq2.192945@attbi_s52...

These closures suck, but again they affect a tiny subset of an already tiny
population of pilots. This doe not represent a major lifestyle change for
the average American, as Eduaro suggested.

You keepsaying "tiny" but your Iowa-centric mentality defrines AMERICA
by yourself. Maybe 23 airports is only a dozen planes and pilots in Iowa,
but here we're packed in pretty densely. The DC metro area has a population
of over 5 million nearly twice the population of Iowa.

Your statistics of 99.99999999 are spurious.

In article m6XRc.276981$Oq2.266297@attbi_s52,
Jay Honeck wrote:

Come to Iowa, Eduardo. We'll do some flying (using our cheap, sweet car
gas), have a few cold ones, and you can sit in one of our hot tubs with your
honey all night long. Maybe we'll take in a play, or visit the Amana
Colonies. Or perhaps we'll sit on the pedestrian mall, and listen to the
free Friday Night concert series?

If I go to the US, I will of course go visit you Jay. Iowa sounds
like a place I would love to live in also...




--
Eduardo Kaftanski |
| Freedom's just another word
http://e.nn.cl | for nothing left to loose.
|

Martin Hotze wrote:

I know that men don't love their in laws ... but don't you think that bringing
her to the vet is a little harsh?

I dunno -- she bites sometimes.

Hope she is doing OK after all.

That was a followup visit to some tests she had done. She goes in for a carotid
artery scrape next week.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

The big difference I see is the number of people who now live in a state
of
low-level, nameless fear, and a few more people giving actual voice to
their
self-centered conspiracy imaginings.

This low-level, nameless fear seems to grip a lot of people, to one degree
or another -- but it was happening long before 9/11.

In fact, if I had to name one thing that holds many people back from greater
success, it would be this odd fear of the unknown. The terrorist attacks
just allowed these folks to attach a new label to their fears.

But that's a whole 'nuther thread, now isn't it?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

At least with the rain forest, we'll inherit a big, empty building when
it
fails.

Can you build a runway next to it?

No, but I-80 is right next to the site. That'll do, in a pinch...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Brian Downing wrote:

Heh. In Illinois if you haven't had any moving violations you plug in
some data into a web site and they mail you a sticker to put on the back
of your old license that gets you four more years.

Talk about coincidence -- I just got my renewal notice today. Turns out
that they not
only require a total of 6 points, there is a small subset of documents
that *must* be
produced. In my case, I'll either have to write the State of Tennessee and
get a
certified copy of my birth certificate or renew my passport.

And to pay for this, they tripled the cost of the license and reduced the
term from 6
years to 4.

Hmmm...in Arizona they jacked the fee to $25 (from $6), but your license
doesn't expire until your 65th birthday...even if you're only in your 20's
now. Of course, most people are out of the state in less than five years
anyway, so it's a great cash coup.