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Old August 24th 04, 11:09 PM
Jon Kraus
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Maybe there was a "Blue Light Special" on head scarfs at the
neighborhood K-mart...

JK


Tom S. wrote:
"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:07:07 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:


The pilot is bombing a safehouse for insurgents. As the bomb is falling,
the house begins to empty of fighters, all en route to a nearby


fire-fight

with U.S. Marines. The pilot notes this, and seeks (and is granted)
permission to change his targeting from the house to the fighters -- with
incredible results.


I wonder, was it confirmed, after the fact, that these people were
actually fighters en route to a nearby fire-fight? I sure hope so,
but y'know what with the blast damage and all, it might be kinda hard
to identify anything.



Maybe they were just out jogging.



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Old August 25th 04, 05:54 AM
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I wonder, was it confirmed, after the fact, that these people were
actually fighters en route to a nearby fire-fight? I sure hope so,
but y'know what with the blast damage and all, it might be kinda hard
to identify anything.

Maybe they were just out jogging.



"Looks like I picked the wrong day to start jogging..."


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Old August 25th 04, 05:13 PM
Jon Kraus
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Looks like the they "picked the wrong week to f**ck with the US"...

JK

Peter Gottlieb wrote:

I wonder, was it confirmed, after the fact, that these people were
actually fighters en route to a nearby fire-fight? I sure hope so,
but y'know what with the blast damage and all, it might be kinda hard
to identify anything.


Maybe they were just out jogging.




"Looks like I picked the wrong day to start jogging..."



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Old August 25th 04, 07:36 PM
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:13:46 GMT, Jon Kraus
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Looks like the they "picked the wrong week to f**ck with the US"...

JK


No one has been able to confirm here that the people hit by the bomb
were in fact insurgents and not some innocent group. I'm not saying
they were an innocent group, it's just that that information hasn't
been made available here.

The controller ok'd the switch to the group target from the "safe
house" virtually instantaneously, which would lead one to believe that
the military was pretty sure of it's target, and therefore that anyone
running down the road in the proximity of the target must be hostile
and legitimate targets.

It would just be nice to know if we're oooing and aaaahhing over a hit
on actual enemy or an example of "collateral damage".

Corky Scott
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Old August 25th 04, 09:30 PM
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message

And the left will never understand that no war is won militarily.


Maybe not anymore. I'd say that the American civil war was by virtue of
attrition and demolition against the Confederate states. World War II would
probably apply too. As my grandfather said, by 1945 there wasn't much of
Germany left to bomb.

-c


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Old August 25th 04, 09:33 PM
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"Rich Lemert" wrote in message news:FTxWc.2063$Y%

And just how stable is this democracy going to be, when (1) the
population has essentially no experience in running a democracy, (2)
they have essentially no stake in the formation of that democracy (since
it is, in essence, being imposed upon them, rather than being something
they've earned), and (3) are part of a culture where there is a
significant faction that seriously believes a democracy is blasphemy
because it is not a theocracy based on "the true word".


There hasn't been peace in the middle east since before the Old Testament.
They've been fighting each other over God for over six thousand years and,
remember: Islam is a religion of peace. The idea that America is going to
change that is heroic, but fanciful.



-c


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Old August 25th 04, 09:48 PM
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You make these terrorist murderers sound like freedom fighters...


Reconsider his point. We probably all agree that they're scumbags that want
to get their virgins et al from Allah, and some of us believe we should
oblige them as quickly as possible. But, southern author Shelby Foote said
of the civil war that if you were to ask the average southern soldier why he
fought against the US, he'd most likely say "because they're here."
The -Iraqis- (not the insurgents) are likely fighting because they 1)
believe the propanda that has been pounded into them for the last 30 years,
and 2) know somebody who has been endangered by the war.

It is in all likelihood true that if, say, the UN invaded America and
toppled our government to set up a new one, even many of the 50% who oppose
the current administration would react violently. We would expect nothing
less of our countrymen and should expect nothing less of the patriots of
Iraq. I'm more of a fan of the AC-130 gunship than the rich kid with the
private army--the "warlord cleric" and murder suspect holding holy sites
hostage--but, reality is what it is, and Iraq doesn't yet get The History
Channel.

-c


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Old August 25th 04, 09:51 PM
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"Dale" wrote in message news:me-

I've seen that same footage posted and it was supposedly a wedding party
and not combatants. Only those who were there know what it was in
reality.


It's always a wedding party or a baby milk factory. It's unfortunate that
that region of the world is so f'ed up that public display of your AK-47 is
a sign of manhood, and firing assault weapons straight up into the air in
populated areas is a great way to celebrate a wedding.

Hey...maybe the F-16 was celebrating the same wedding!

-c


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Old August 25th 04, 09:52 PM
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message news:5YUWc.1181

Maybe they were just out jogging.

"Looks like I picked the wrong day to start jogging..."


I can't BELIEVE you people can look at video showing the death of dozens of
human beings and make a joke about it... ...but, since you are,
AAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! ROFL! ;

-c


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Old August 25th 04, 09:56 PM
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"Corky Scott" wrote in message

The controller ok'd the switch to the group target from the "safe
house" virtually instantaneously, which would lead one to believe that
the military was pretty sure of it's target, and therefore that anyone
running down the road in the proximity of the target must be hostile
and legitimate targets.


We'd have to know all of the tactical details that led to the airstrike in
the first place. On it's face, we see little ant-people getting blown to
hell. Could be military, could be civilian but the peripheral questions
a Was there fighting up the street? Were there other insurgents who
came from that area to fight the US Marines? It's a street: Where's the
traffic?

They could have been soldiers or protestors, but only the forward
controllers would know for sure. It's impossible to look at just the video
and know what's going on except that when mama says don't hang out with the
wrong crowd, she might have a point.

-c


 




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