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  #21  
Old October 7th 04, 06:32 PM
bryan chaisone
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:jVT8d.197752$D%.81366@attbi_s51...
True, but we could lessen this affect quite a bit by pursuing free
trade agreements with 1st world partners, instead of 3rd world. With
3rd world partners big business gets cheap labor and they get a market
to dump cheap goods. Our middle class loses. With 1st world partners
we'd get a market for high-value-added goods and no cheap labor
competition. The middle class would win.


Which 1st world countries don't we have free-trade agreements with?


Would someone please give me a definition of 1st, 2nd and 3rd world countries?

What is the deciding factor?

Bryan
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Old October 7th 04, 09:29 PM
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"bryan chaisone" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:jVT8d.197752$D%.81366@attbi_s51...
True, but we could lessen this affect quite a bit by pursuing free
trade agreements with 1st world partners, instead of 3rd world. With
3rd world partners big business gets cheap labor and they get a market
to dump cheap goods. Our middle class loses. With 1st world partners
we'd get a market for high-value-added goods and no cheap labor
competition. The middle class would win.


Which 1st world countries don't we have free-trade agreements with?


Would someone please give me a definition of 1st, 2nd and 3rd world
countries?

What is the deciding factor?

Bryan



Bryan a lot of this goes back to Cold war days but basicly, US, Western
Europe and Japan is the 1st World. The old Warsaw pact countries were the
second and all the "Developing countries" were the 3rd.

There will be those that will disagree.


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Old October 8th 04, 12:08 AM
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You got that right. Some years ago we were landlords for a 2 BR
condo, which attracted entry-level renters. It was astounding to see
people with incomes not much above minimum wage with accounts at
Nordstrom's (high-end department store), new car payments, cell phone
bills, cable TV payments, yada yada. And of course lots of bad
credit. They had not a clue what the word "thrift" meant.


To be "poor" in America means:

- You only have a 27 inch color TV
- You only have cable -- no satellite
- You're 40 pounds overweight
- You have only two credit cards -- both max'd out
- You only have one car

Why do you think people keep dying in their attempts to get here?
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Old October 8th 04, 10:16 AM
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:29:53 -0500, "Gig Giacona"
wrote:

There will be those that will disagree.


I don't! That's exactly where the term came from:

1. Us
2. Them
3. Everyone Else

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old October 8th 04, 05:27 PM
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In article I%j9d.208006$D%.171689@attbi_s51, Jay Honeck wrote:
- You have only two credit cards -- both max'd out


The trouble is - by that stage you are owned by your posessions, rather
than owning them.

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  #26  
Old October 9th 04, 04:07 AM
Jay Honeck
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- You have only two credit cards -- both max'd out

The trouble is - by that stage you are owned by your posessions, rather
than owning them.


Truer words were never spoken.

I've known too many people who are up to their hips in credit card debt, and
are just slaves to their possessions. It's a tragedy that can be so easily
avoided, yet is so hard for many to resist.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old October 9th 04, 04:07 AM
Jay Honeck
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- You have only two credit cards -- both max'd out

The trouble is - by that stage you are owned by your posessions, rather
than owning them.


Truer words were never spoken.

I've known too many people who are up to their hips in credit card debt, and
are just slaves to their possessions. It's a tragedy that can be so easily
avoided, yet is so hard for many to resist.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


  #28  
Old October 9th 04, 05:40 AM
bryan chaisone
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Cub Driver wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:29:53 -0500, "Gig Giacona"
wrote:

There will be those that will disagree.


I don't! That's exactly where the term came from:

1. Us
2. Them
3. Everyone Else

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

Warbird's Forum
www.warbirdforum.com
Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org



Thank you Cig and Cub Driver.

Bryan
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Old October 9th 04, 05:40 AM
bryan chaisone
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Cub Driver wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:29:53 -0500, "Gig Giacona"
wrote:

There will be those that will disagree.


I don't! That's exactly where the term came from:

1. Us
2. Them
3. Everyone Else

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

Warbird's Forum
www.warbirdforum.com
Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org



Thank you Cig and Cub Driver.

Bryan
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Old October 9th 04, 02:16 PM
Doug Carter
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"Earl Grieda" wrote in message news:

It will be interesting. However, its to bad that greedy American CEOs have
ruined engineering as a profession...


Woe is us! The situation is so bad in America that its no wonder that
the French won the X prize... or was it the Koreans or the Brasilians?
Whomever... doesn't matter, could'nt be Americans as they are far too
busy is self pity and loathing to actually acomplish anything!
 




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