headsets

ANR does sound good, is there much difference between an entry level ANR and
a $1000 set? It doesn't look like there is all that much difference in
attenuation, but I have never tried a pair of ANR's so I don't really know.


"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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ANR may be alluring, but passive technology is pretty reliable.


ANR is, too.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Go on ebay you will find a good set.
"Stefan" wrote in message
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Thomas Borchert wrote:

With DC, you'll be buying 60s technology.

So they fit nicely into those Cessnae and Pipers he'll probbly fly... :-)

Stefan

Go on ebay you will find a good set.
"Stefan" wrote in message
...
Thomas Borchert wrote:

With DC, you'll be buying 60s technology.

So they fit nicely into those Cessnae and Pipers he'll probbly fly... :-)

Stefan

Greg Butler wrote:

ANR does sound good, is there much difference between an entry level ANR and
a $1000 set? It doesn't look like there is all that much difference in
attenuation, but I have never tried a pair of ANR's so I don't really know.

The major difference between a high-quality unit ( $600) and the least expensive
Lightspeed is the fact that you can easily get distortion in the BOL Lightspeeds from
poor seals in the earcups. If you wear glasses, they may be unusable. When I tried a
set at Osh some years back, the sales rep was very up-front about it. Another problem
with cheaper units can be excessive height of the headband, though this is also a
problem with my Series I Bose.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

Greg Butler wrote:

ANR does sound good, is there much difference between an entry level ANR and
a $1000 set? It doesn't look like there is all that much difference in
attenuation, but I have never tried a pair of ANR's so I don't really know.

The major difference between a high-quality unit ( $600) and the least expensive
Lightspeed is the fact that you can easily get distortion in the BOL Lightspeeds from
poor seals in the earcups. If you wear glasses, they may be unusable. When I tried a
set at Osh some years back, the sales rep was very up-front about it. Another problem
with cheaper units can be excessive height of the headband, though this is also a
problem with my Series I Bose.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

john smith wrote:
It may be 60's era technology, but it's also 60's era quality, something
completely lacking in today's "build it as cheap as you can, charge as
much as you can" business world.
Given the low quality of LightSpeeds, the same high price arguement can
be made. You are paying too much for junk.
In 25 years, I have sent my DC's back only one time. That was for
refurbishing the plugs when they were 20 years old. Try that with your
LightSpeeds!

Thomas Borchert wrote:

,


I am thinking about
probably getting a David Clark, they seem to be pretty good quality,



With DC, you'll be buying 60s technology. Both ergonomics and
technology (think ANR) have advanced tremendously since then. DCs are
not called David Clamps for nothing. Also, they are simply too
expensive for what they offer. In my view, DC is not recommended.

The two key factors in a headset a

- wearing comfort
- good ANR

It just doesn't make sense to go without ANR these days. Buy a real
headset from the start. The entry level ANR from Lightspeed is what,
300? You're lucky to get a passive DC for that.

In my opinion, Lightspeed deliveres best on those two at an excellent
price.


FWIW, I'm on my third year with my LightSpeed 15XLs without a single
problem. I *do* handle them carefully and put them back in their bag
after the plane is back in the hangar. I bought a pair of the QFR Solos
for pax and they too have served well.

I flew with DCs as a student and found the clamping pressure extremely
uncomfortable after about an hour in the air. And some of the DC
knockoffs weren't much better. The design of the LightSpeed XLs, with
the extra-thick cushion in the headband (I'm a baldy, so it helps!!) and
the extra-deep ear cushions was what really attracted me at first. The
ANR turned out to be an added bonus, and the battery life has been
great. I've noticed that even the mighty Bose had to make improvements
to their design to compete with LightSpeed features like auto-shutoff
and extended battery life. So, even if LightSpeed's quality is not up to
the standards of some on this NG, the competition they have provided has
prompted the other manufacturers to improve their headsets in order to
better compete.

Steve DeMoss

john smith wrote:
It may be 60's era technology, but it's also 60's era quality, something
completely lacking in today's "build it as cheap as you can, charge as
much as you can" business world.
Given the low quality of LightSpeeds, the same high price arguement can
be made. You are paying too much for junk.
In 25 years, I have sent my DC's back only one time. That was for
refurbishing the plugs when they were 20 years old. Try that with your
LightSpeeds!

Thomas Borchert wrote:

,


I am thinking about
probably getting a David Clark, they seem to be pretty good quality,



With DC, you'll be buying 60s technology. Both ergonomics and
technology (think ANR) have advanced tremendously since then. DCs are
not called David Clamps for nothing. Also, they are simply too
expensive for what they offer. In my view, DC is not recommended.

The two key factors in a headset a

- wearing comfort
- good ANR

It just doesn't make sense to go without ANR these days. Buy a real
headset from the start. The entry level ANR from Lightspeed is what,
300? You're lucky to get a passive DC for that.

In my opinion, Lightspeed deliveres best on those two at an excellent
price.


FWIW, I'm on my third year with my LightSpeed 15XLs without a single
problem. I *do* handle them carefully and put them back in their bag
after the plane is back in the hangar. I bought a pair of the QFR Solos
for pax and they too have served well.

I flew with DCs as a student and found the clamping pressure extremely
uncomfortable after about an hour in the air. And some of the DC
knockoffs weren't much better. The design of the LightSpeed XLs, with
the extra-thick cushion in the headband (I'm a baldy, so it helps!!) and
the extra-deep ear cushions was what really attracted me at first. The
ANR turned out to be an added bonus, and the battery life has been
great. I've noticed that even the mighty Bose had to make improvements
to their design to compete with LightSpeed features like auto-shutoff
and extended battery life. So, even if LightSpeed's quality is not up to
the standards of some on this NG, the competition they have provided has
prompted the other manufacturers to improve their headsets in order to
better compete.

Steve DeMoss

Sour grapes? If you can't afford to own a quality headset don't knock it.

Buy a good DC passive used on ebay.

Dave


Thomas Borchert wrote:
,


I am thinking about
probably getting a David Clark, they seem to be pretty good quality,



With DC, you'll be buying 60s technology. Both ergonomics and
technology (think ANR) have advanced tremendously since then. DCs are
not called David Clamps for nothing. Also, they are simply too
expensive for what they offer. In my view, DC is not recommended.

The two key factors in a headset a

- wearing comfort
- good ANR

It just doesn't make sense to go without ANR these days. Buy a real
headset from the start. The entry level ANR from Lightspeed is what,
300? You're lucky to get a passive DC for that.

In my opinion, Lightspeed deliveres best on those two at an excellent
price.

Sour grapes? If you can't afford to own a quality headset don't knock it.

Buy a good DC passive used on ebay.

Dave


Thomas Borchert wrote:
,


I am thinking about
probably getting a David Clark, they seem to be pretty good quality,



With DC, you'll be buying 60s technology. Both ergonomics and
technology (think ANR) have advanced tremendously since then. DCs are
not called David Clamps for nothing. Also, they are simply too
expensive for what they offer. In my view, DC is not recommended.

The two key factors in a headset a

- wearing comfort
- good ANR

It just doesn't make sense to go without ANR these days. Buy a real
headset from the start. The entry level ANR from Lightspeed is what,
300? You're lucky to get a passive DC for that.

In my opinion, Lightspeed deliveres best on those two at an excellent
price.

" gdbutler at bellsouth.net wrote in message
news
I am a student pilot, and am about to buy a headset. I am thinking about
probably getting a David Clark, they seem to be pretty good quality,
however, i don't want to spend more on my headset than on my training.
Anyone have any suggestions as to good brands that are not outrageoulsy
expensive. Thanks


In 7 years and 1600 hours, my 13.4's have been squashed, dropped, rained on.
They've been exposed to twenty below winters and 105+ F summers. They've
spent 3 seasons getting knocked around in banner planes, down low in salt
air over the beach. They show some wear, scuffs and such from general
abuse, and some slight surface rust on one of the metal straps, but they've
never missed a beat, and by my own admission, they were treated with
anything but kid gloves.

As far as comfort and noise attenuation? Well, I've got a fairly large
head, and I never had a problem with them. Some weekends we'd spend 11+
hours in the plane, a day. I'm talking a Super Cub running open stacks and
stripped bare; no doors, windows, mufflers, nothing. Now my rear end and
back might have been sore, and my legs stiff, and I might have needed a shoe
horn to get out at the end of the day. But I never noticed the headset.
(BTW- a set of cloth ear seal covers do WONDERS for comfort; earmuffs on
cold days, and they wisk the sweat away on hot ones)